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> tranny drain plug stripped, what to do
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post Apr 4 2006, 05:39 PM
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It also fills with brass and molybdenum bits which won't stick to the magnet. And being vented, it certainly has the possibility of picking up dirt and moisture. I certainly don't think it needs to be changed often..

I'm sure most of the time you can get by without ever changing it... But I don't see there being no reason to change it for fresh occasionally.

It's worth it to me, for the purposes of ensuring maximum performance and lifespan, to change it every few years. Ya gotta get under there to check the level anyways, might as well get the shimmery glitter bits out, clean off the magnet, and make sure your drain plug doesn't fuse in place. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)
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post Apr 4 2006, 06:47 PM
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Synthetic leaks out faster........ (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
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post Apr 4 2006, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 4 2006, 03:39 PM)
Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)



or better yet...lets start a debate on whether warming up your car is better than just moderately driving it up after startup. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 4 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (drewvw @ Apr 4 2006, 07:52 PM)
QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 4 2006, 03:39 PM)
Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)



or better yet...lets start a debate on whether warming up your car is better than just moderately driving it up after startup. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

uh the manual states that a idle warm up isnt necessary...just dont drive the piss out of it till its warm.

me personally, I just drive...I only occasionally drive very wildly.

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post Apr 4 2006, 08:18 PM
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Noted. This is an ongoing argument I've had wth my dad for about 10 years now. I've always been an "idler", although I'm not delusional that its any better than any other method.

Maybe its psychological, but I've been pretty lucky with cars over the years so I'm sticking to it (knock on wood!)
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post Apr 4 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (drewvw @ Apr 4 2006, 08:18 PM)
Noted. This is an ongoing argument I've had wth my dad for about 10 years now. I've always been an "idler", although I'm not delusional that its any better than any other method.

Maybe its psychological, but I've been pretty lucky with cars over the years so I'm sticking to it (knock on wood!)

ever watched cars at the traffic lights (long ones), and then the light turns green they pull away and out comes a BIG amount of water out of teh tailpipe.

imagine if that stayed in for ten to fifteen minutes EVERY time for the life of the engine.

Can we say rust?

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post Apr 4 2006, 08:25 PM
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Yeah but I've driven old european cars with lots of miles on them my whole life, that only seems to happen to fresh new cars.....
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post Apr 4 2006, 08:28 PM
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I recall someone saying it was in the manual...and come to think of it I have a 73 manual. A euro 74 one as well. And I think i read this.

I think overall, its just personal preference. Sure its better to have heat when you need it, and not having to wait till the HE's heat up.

I think we're just splitting hairs here....

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post Apr 4 2006, 08:33 PM
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the cap'n is correct.....many manufactures of transmissions and rear diffs do not recommend a regular draining and re-filling..


Hmm your both wrong...

Ive taken the liberty of attaching a scan of a Porsche Drivers Manual..This scan is from a manual from an early 70's 911...
and yes the recommended service interval is 6000 miles..

Crustholio.. how you have led your flock astray....

Im aware that the oils we use in our cars now are much improved from the 1970's....

so change your gear oil once a year ;-)


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post Apr 4 2006, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ Apr 4 2006, 06:28 PM)
I think we're just splitting hairs here....

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probably true. I need something to chat about while I watch the red sox get spanked by the rangers....

TimT, nice pull there with the chart
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post Apr 4 2006, 08:55 PM
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Why on Earth would you sell an S2K? I want one, can you get one in supersonic blue, always liked that color.

So, where is the flaw in the idea to JB Weld it on? I could even put the tool I have in there, have another drain plug handy already. If it fails, would probably just pump it out, bro has one of them, before I would drill it out, I would be afraid of doing something bad.
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post Apr 4 2006, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE (Tobra @ Apr 4 2006, 06:55 PM)
Why on Earth would you sell an S2K? I want one, can you get one in supersonic blue, always liked that color.

So, where is the flaw in the idea to JB Weld it on? I could even put the tool I have in there, have another drain plug handy already. If it fails, would probably just pump it out, bro has one of them, before I would drill it out, I would be afraid of doing something bad.



I didn't WANT to sell the S2K, I had too....long story ending in compromise in the form of a 914. Just going with the flow, loved that car...

I am planning on giving the JB weld plan a careful try in the future.
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post Apr 4 2006, 09:10 PM
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Too bad, I want one of those when the integra dies, if it ever dies I should say
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it was time...I had it for 3 years and started recieving signs (is that what running from the cops is?) that I should probably downgrade while I live in the city.

the 9000 rpm redline was too much fun....
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post Apr 4 2006, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (drewvw @ Apr 4 2006, 05:52 PM)
QUOTE (bondo @ Apr 4 2006, 03:39 PM)
Lets start a synthetic vs. non vs leaks vs syncro effectiveness vs wear argument now.. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)



or better yet...lets start a debate on whether warming up your car is better than just moderately driving it up after startup. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

No religious discussions on the 914non-club.com! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 7 2008, 08:30 PM
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I ran into this problem - but it was the *fill* plug that would not budge. Fortunately, I followed the sage advice of not opening the drain plug until I had the fill plug out. I tried all sorts of things - heat (both hot air gun as well as a torch), a chisel, sticking a bit of metal in with the drain plug removal tool, cursing, beating my head against the tranny, etc. What finally worked was similar to the "17mm Allen wrench" trick. Unfortunately, nobody around here seemed to carry such an item. However, M10 nuts/bolts have 17mm heads. So, I welded a bolt to a nut:

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This fit nicely in the socket on my breaker bar:

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And fit snugly in the drain plug. I started turning... and it *still* would not budge. In fact, with enough pressure, I *broke the weld bead on top of the bolt and the bolt started turning* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Probably because of oils on the bolt that I had not bothered to clean off.

What finally worked was when I filled in the space between the nut head and the bolt with welding beads. Effectively, I built a 17mm Allen wrench (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) . It looks like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) but it did the trick. Once I got the drain plug out, I welded the bolt to it to avoid a repeat until I can get a replacement filler hole plug:

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I'm on the hunt for a real 17mm Allen socket. Does anybody know why the genius who designed the plug remover gave it *round corners*? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
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post Jan 7 2008, 08:50 PM
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Can you drill out the plug with a slightly smaller drill-bit (17mm), then (carefully) chisel away the remaining threads? How about hitting it with a reverse drill-bit?
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QUOTE(Danny_Ocean @ Jan 7 2008, 07:50 PM) *

Can you drill out the plug with a slightly smaller drill-bit (17mm), then (carefully) chisel away the remaining threads? How about hitting it with a reverse drill-bit?


I think drilling the whole thing out is asking for metal flakes in your tranny. A reverse drill-bit is a good idea - I bought a large screw extractor as my backup plan - but I did not have to go there. The bolt trick worked just fine.
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post Jan 7 2008, 11:05 PM
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I may have a spare plug for ya. You can get a 17mm allen socket attachment at Auto Zone for like $5 in a set. Also, craftsman makes a real sturdy one.
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post Jan 7 2008, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(Dr Evil @ Jan 7 2008, 09:05 PM) *

I may have a spare plug for ya. You can get a 17mm allen socket attachment at Auto Zone for like $5 in a set. Also, craftsman makes a real sturdy one.

So does Snap-on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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