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Who's got the oldest 914?, bored... |
sixerdon |
Apr 7 2006, 08:17 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
Dave, I'm curious. Is #0033 a U.S. import car? Any unusual details you know of?
Don |
Mike McGrath |
Apr 7 2006, 08:17 PM
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#42
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 5-December 04 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 3,225 |
I've spoken with Glenn about the car. It is very interesting. But a build date of Dec 1 is bogus. I have seen a car with Nov 1969 date code that is later than Glenn's car.
If you read the COA carefully, it says it was DELIVERED on December 1, 1969. Perhaps they are referring to when it left the factory or when it arrived at the dealer? |
davep |
Apr 8 2006, 06:20 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,156 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
0033 was delivered by VW Canada, and was possibly the only 914/6 officially imported by VW Canada. It was sold to a VW Canada employee in May 1970, and used as a race car, never licensed for the street. It has a lot of race history.It is difficult to see anything unusual since it has been extensively modified, but I do note the color code is 29 / 29 and I don't know why the number is doubled. |
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drewvw |
Apr 8 2006, 06:37 AM
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#44
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new england car guy Group: Members Posts: 1,631 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 5,630 Region Association: North East States |
That's really interesting. Dave, what's your method for tracing the history of specific cars? |
Joe Bob |
Apr 8 2006, 07:57 AM
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#45
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
4702900304
VIN# for the Rocket which I no longer own....thanks to DaveP for finding it. |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Apr 8 2006, 08:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
After owning this 914 for 30+ years, I learn about "chassis" #s! I thought the V.I.N. would be the chassis # as well. So I look, and sure enough, there it is in the trunk, corresponding to the Karmann tag on the door jamb.
1970 914/4 V.I.N. 4702903114 Built 01.70 chassis # 0319595 paint# L11E |
davep |
Apr 8 2006, 10:05 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,156 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Well, 0033 is a local car and I know the owner. I borrowed his documentation for a few weeks. Included the original service booklet, never used except for the dealer stamp, the original owner, VIN and engine # and the date of delivery. He had saved a ton of stuff. This was a homebuilt conversion GT. For most other cars I find the VIN and owner contact wherever I can, then ask questions. Been at it 30 years though. 4702903114 Built 01.70 chassis # 0319595 Chassis 95 built on the Monday 3rd week of 1970, so the middle of January the body was welded up and painted. Then in the next two weeks it was assembled, given a VIN, and went out the door. It was about twenty years ago that I collected enough chassis data to see the pattern and understand the date code. |
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1970 Neun vierzehn |
Apr 8 2006, 10:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Interesting, fascinating and very much appreciated. I'll have to check the original service booklet to see when the original (and previous) owner took delivery.
Thanks for info, Dave! |
sixerdon |
Apr 8 2006, 07:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 23-May 03 From: Dartmouth, MA Member No.: 731 |
Dave,
Two more sixes to add to your data bank; VIN; 9140430137 CH; 130229 DATE; 01/70 COLOR; 2910 CANARY YELLOW VIN; 9140431372 CH; 131543 DATE; 04/70 COLOR; 8010 SILVER MET. Let me know when you break the chassis code for the sixes. Don |
Mhead |
Dec 10 2006, 08:25 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 3-December 06 From: Ma Member No.: 7,302 |
New member here...just looked up the VIN on one of my 70 914s...4702900544.
Where does this one stand in your record? |
Triaddave |
Dec 10 2006, 12:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 244 Joined: 31-December 03 From: olympia,wa Member No.: 1,478 |
kind of related... i have an engine case # gaoooooo4. came out of a 73 car, explain that...
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ArtechnikA |
Dec 10 2006, 12:26 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
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SirAndy |
Dec 10 2006, 02:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,688 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
i have an engine case # gaoooooo4. came out of a 73 car, explain that... GA == 2,0 yes? 1973 first year for 2,0. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) looks liek the 4th 2.0L production case ever made .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Andy |
pankopp |
Feb 19 2007, 02:50 PM
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Captain Awesome Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 28-July 06 From: Acworth, Ga Member No.: 6,519 Region Association: South East States |
Hey guys i am pretty close to the first, just picked up the car form Chogokin.
11/69, and i assume #610 (IMG:http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid224/pbefa9f38e10fd32c5e6848e50f781565/ea9c6b9f.jpg) |
mrgreenjeans |
Feb 19 2007, 04:43 PM
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mrgreenjeans Group: Members Posts: 213 Joined: 9-February 07 From: N.Dak. Member No.: 7,520 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Hey guys i am pretty close to the first, just picked up the car form Chogokin. 11/69, and i assume #610 (IMG:http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid224/pbefa9f38e10fd32c5e6848e50f781565/ea9c6b9f.jpg) nice Tag !!! hope the rest of the car is as cool. When you clean the paint residue off that sticker, ( assuming that ), try using some 3-M Imperial handglaze----the tan stuff that John Paterek recommends . It will work wonders and be safe on the vinyl tag. Just use a fair amount, keep it from getting too warm to the touch and with a small piece of cotton cloth, or cloth diaper, use a swirling hand motion. The rag will begin to cleanse the vinyl , and that dude will come out Spankin' ! Any thing else more caustic, and it could be a gonner.... Show us some more pix ! mrgreenjeans |
mrgreenjeans |
Feb 19 2007, 04:45 PM
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mrgreenjeans Group: Members Posts: 213 Joined: 9-February 07 From: N.Dak. Member No.: 7,520 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Hey guys i am pretty close to the first, just picked up the car form Chogokin. 11/69, and i assume #610 (IMG:http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid224/pbefa9f38e10fd32c5e6848e50f781565/ea9c6b9f.jpg) Forgot to note.....lift often and make sure none of the dark lettering is coming off too. That would suck. |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Feb 19 2007, 04:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
For most other cars I find the VIN and owner contact wherever I can, then ask questions. Been at it 30 years though. 4702903114 Built 01.70 chassis # 0319595 Chassis 95 built on the Monday 3rd week of 1970, so the middle of January the body was welded up and painted. Then in the next two weeks it was assembled, given a VIN, and went out the door. It was about twenty years ago that I collected enough chassis data to see the pattern and understand the date code. And the delivery book for this car shows a delivery date of 01 April 1970. Way to call them, Dave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Attached image(s) |
mrgreenjeans |
Feb 19 2007, 05:19 PM
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mrgreenjeans Group: Members Posts: 213 Joined: 9-February 07 From: N.Dak. Member No.: 7,520 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I've spoken with Glenn about the car. It is very interesting. But a build date of Dec 1 is bogus. I have seen a car with Nov 1969 date code that is later than Glenn's car. I think that Dec 1 date comes from a COA, and oftentimes they have the first day of the month. Well, I know they built on more days than just the first of the month. So either they don't know the date and try to be too precise or they are just being sloppy. Dave---- I remember having a conversation about this issue with a local Nord Stern and national PCA concour judge, from MPLS. named Corey Johnson. You may know him from PCA events, He has a top flight sixer in black/black that has won numerous shows. The thoughts entertained and related to me at that time were that Karmann brought over bodies to the factory as they were needed, some from the front of the lot, from the side, back, what ever, not really spending a great amount of time in keeping everything straight and linear in a numerical sort of way. Explaining why there is such a jumping around in sequence....is this the deal, or has there been more research and sound data pertaining to this around now? This was a discussion we had nearly 20 years ago at the Afton Event down Twin Cities way, I do believe. Any clarity on this subject would be greatly appreciated. mrgreenjeans |
burton73 |
Feb 19 2007, 06:44 PM
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burton73 Group: Members Posts: 3,558 Joined: 2-January 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 7,414 Region Association: Southern California |
Very cool, my car was also delivered on 01 April 1970 914-6 #41
Right here in sunny California Bob Attached image(s) |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Feb 19 2007, 06:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Bob,
The 914 was sold to a leasing company? In 1970? Talk about being ahead of the curve! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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