ACox ? about your exhaust, triad vs. header |
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ACox ? about your exhaust, triad vs. header |
jasons |
Apr 14 2006, 09:56 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
How much difference did you see between your triad w/ SSI's vs. your euro-race 4-1? I am trying to determine if I want a triad muff w/ my 2.0 SSI's or just go right to 4-1. For what I can unload the SSI's for, the price would work out about the same.
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Aaron Cox |
Apr 14 2006, 10:02 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
triad sounds great, and "felt" as if it levelled off the torque curve a bit. a really nice piece, would be my choice if i needed to retain heat.
euro race- picked up some low end with it, and about the same mid, picked up some high end.... unloading, thats exactly what i did.... i got some SSI's cheap, header came along and BAM. |
Mueller |
Apr 14 2006, 10:32 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
if you don't need heat, I'd go straight to the Eurorace Header with "stree" muffler....the entire assembly is lighter as well.....I love mine, it sounds great and has a low rumble to it that makes you just want to drive up and down the street...not annoying at all...
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jasons |
Apr 14 2006, 10:56 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
I am probably headed to the 4-1. I mean I live in AZ, I don't really care about heat. I just like the looks of the triad hanging out the back. Also I have 99% of the parts I need for a 2270 so long term the 4-1 makes more sense.
Euro-Race 4-1 and Triad 4-1's are pretty interchangeable in terms of quality and performance if I understand correctly? |
rhodyguy |
Apr 14 2006, 11:32 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
plus, the triad exhaust bolts directly to the triad header.
k |
Aaron Cox |
Apr 14 2006, 12:49 PM
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Mueller |
Apr 14 2006, 12:56 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
plus, the triad exhaust bolts directly to the triad header. k i dontbelive so... they are similar, and use MOST of the triad exhuast on the header, but not the HE flanges triad muffer has 2 inlets....Triad header has 1 outlet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) AFAIK, the Triad header is almost 2X the price of the European Racing header. |
Aaron Cox |
Apr 14 2006, 01:07 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
plus, the triad exhaust bolts directly to the triad header. k i dontbelive so... they are similar, and use MOST of the triad exhuast on the header, but not the HE flanges triad muffer has 2 inlets....Triad header has 1 outlet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) AFAIK, the Triad header is almost 2X the price of the European Racing header. the tirad header has one outlet yes, dave makes a triad dual out muffler, that works with the triad header (one inlet) |
jasons |
Apr 14 2006, 01:07 PM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
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redshift |
Apr 14 2006, 01:09 PM
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Bless the Hell out of you! Group: Members Posts: 10,926 Joined: 29-June 03 Member No.: 869 |
I need HEs...
Let me know. M |
rhodyguy |
Apr 14 2006, 01:16 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
perhaps i should have written A triad final (as dave calls them) bolts up to the triad header. he's running his headers and his exhaust. and yes, they are more expensive than E.R.. but a new interior from L.P. is more espensive than sourcing items here. so is buying countless sets of wheels. so is buying huge brake setups. BIG f-ing engines. LSD trans compoments. SO WERE TRICK HUBS FOR VENTED ROTORS!!! no offence intended mike. does the E.R. use stub tubes or do they bolt up directly?
k |
Dead Air |
Apr 14 2006, 01:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,268 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 2,042 |
I need HEs... Let me know. M You car got funny pipes, no? Cat, etc.? Hey Miles, your avatar is cracking me up! I went to the park to other day to see if I could grab that apex! The "little yellow chick" and the "dolphin" were equiped with a leaf spring and were understeering like crazy! Can we get some pic'ts of what headers/ h/e's we're talking about here? |
Aaron Cox |
Apr 14 2006, 01:21 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
euro race uses stubs,
kerry hunter uses no stubs triad uses stubs? |
rhodyguy |
Apr 14 2006, 01:23 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
and no comparing a used, surface rusted up header that needs blasting and coating either. NEW please.
k |
jasons |
Apr 14 2006, 01:31 PM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
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Mueller |
Apr 14 2006, 01:37 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
perhaps i should have written A triad final (as dave calls them) bolts up to the triad header. he's running his headers and his exhaust. and yes, they are more expensive than E.R.. but a new interior from L.P. is more espensive than sourcing items here. so is buying countless sets of wheels. so is buying huge brake setups. BIG f-ing engines. LSD trans compoments. SO WERE TRICK HUBS FOR VENTED ROTORS!!! no offence intended mike. does the E.R. use stub tubes or do they bolt up directly? k The original post(s) mentioned using heat exchangers W/Triad muffler and later on selling the heat exchangers and going to a header...if that was done, he couldn't use the original Triad muffler, he'd have to buy a header specific muffler. Yes the E.R. use stub pipes, personally I see no reason to pay more for the Triad header compared to the E.R. stuff....maybe I'm way off on my prices, I have not done a current price check on either system. You need to make sure you compare complete systems (with muffler) and please let us know the outcome of your price checking..... George Narbel European Racing Headers 1010 N. Stephanie St. Unit C-7 Henderson, NV 89014 (702) 433-9189 Please let him know you saw his ad on the 914 club web site. |
rhodyguy |
Apr 14 2006, 01:48 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,081 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
agreed. why anyone would run with no provision for heat/defrost, in a street car, is beyond me anyways. it's like people slapping in headers for a six that requires cutting/bending/altering the shift rods. spend a bit more on a triad and forget about it.
k |
jasons |
Apr 14 2006, 02:23 PM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,002 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
The original post(s) mentioned using heat exchangers W/Triad muffler and later on selling the heat exchangers and going to a header...if that was done, he couldn't use the original Triad muffler, he'd have to buy a header specific muffler. Thats why I want to make the right decision the first time. I like the way the Triad muffler looks and from everyones reviews, it has good tone and performance. I realize the Triad header will require its own muffler. My small dilemma is, sell the 2.0 SSI's and just go for the 4->1 or just buy the Triad muffler? By the time I sell the 2.0 SSI's the money is not really a factor. Living in AZ, heat is not as much of a concern. I have never had a 914 with heat, but maybe I should. |
Aaron Cox |
Apr 14 2006, 03:36 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
The original post(s) mentioned using heat exchangers W/Triad muffler and later on selling the heat exchangers and going to a header...if that was done, he couldn't use the original Triad muffler, he'd have to buy a header specific muffler. Thats why I want to make the right decision the first time. I like the way the Triad muffler looks and from everyones reviews, it has good tone and performance. I realize the Triad header will require its own muffler. My small dilemma is, sell the 2.0 SSI's and just go for the 4->1 or just buy the Triad muffler? By the time I sell the 2.0 SSI's the money is not really a factor. Living in AZ, heat is not as much of a concern. I have never had a 914 with heat, but maybe I should. get the E.R headers. you will like em... vlave adjusts are CAKE now!! |
Rand |
Apr 14 2006, 04:26 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Is there any info online about Eurorace? Photos, prices, etc.???
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