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New Garage Needs a Garage Door Opener, Thoughts |
Kerrys914 |
Apr 21 2006, 08:33 AM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;) Group: Members Posts: 1,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Williamsburg, VA Member No.: 16 |
The garage is roughed-in for an opener. Wire is pulled from the ceiling back to the house door. There is also wires pulled down the sides of the door.
I thought there was a newer style opener that didn't hang from the ceiling but attached to the sides???? Do these work well or should I just get a ultra-quite ceiling mounted unit from Lowes for $170?? The tension system is a bar running along the top of the door opening.. Much nicer then the old springs in my last garage. Cheers |
TROJANMAN |
Apr 21 2006, 08:39 AM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,271 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
i just bought a 3/4 horse motor from Sears. It's surprisingly quiet for a chain drive and much faster than the 1/2 horse.
I like to race the new opener against the old one on the 3rd door. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I think I saw it on sale for $179 |
MoveQik |
Apr 21 2006, 08:39 AM
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What size wheels can I fit? Group: Members Posts: 4,645 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 3,881 Region Association: Southwest Region |
FWIW, two days ago we just had a Liftmaster beltdrive put in. The thing is earily quiet. The cost was about $250. It's a little more than the Lowes/Home Depot units but it is awesome. The ONLY noise I hear is the rollers of the door on the track.
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rhodyguy |
Apr 21 2006, 08:41 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Moore Matic makes a good opener. the screw drive variety is pretty quiet. if i read you right, those wires are the cables that raise and lower the door.
k |
spare time toys |
Apr 21 2006, 08:56 AM
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hooked on grilling food. Group: Members Posts: 4,059 Joined: 3-April 04 From: West Plano Tx Member No.: 1,884 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I like when those big tension springs break (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) sounds like a shotgun going off and the door gets real heavy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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r_towle |
Apr 21 2006, 09:24 AM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
Just think vibration.
Mount it on rubber blocks to isolate the vibration from the house frame. Its the right way to do it.. Rich |
Matt Meyer |
Apr 21 2006, 09:33 AM
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Überlurker Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Eastern Washington Member No.: 1,411 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I have a Wayne Dalton Torque Master like you are describing. And I'll assume that is what you are talking about since the design is patented. Look here: I drive by Wayne Dalton
The door makes more noise than this opener opening and closing. It opens and closes fast. The opener is attached to the garage door header so very little noise is transfered through the ceiling. I can hear my wifes car pull into the garage as well as I can hear the door opening. The Wayne Dalton dosen't use any of the prewiring it is run entirely off RF except for the safety eyebeams. (I wired the eye beams through the existing wiring). It isn't set up like other door openers. I can not remember how to adjust how far it opens and closes, but haven't had to in two years. The "detent" is a little difficult to set the first time. The motor actually moves and sits between the top of the door and the opener "locking" the door closed. It is not possible to lift the door without pulling the safety cable. They are more expensive. Is it worth the price? I'm not sure, if you do not have a room directlly above the garage. But it is cool, a very clean install. You can not see anything, except for a light fixture, when the door is up. I have had people ask where the opener is. I do not have a second story. If there was a room above the garage and the garage door opener noise bothered me there I have no doubt this would all but eliminate it. I would get another one. |
JmuRiz |
Apr 21 2006, 09:45 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,427 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have a Wayne Dalton Torque Master like you are describing. And I'll assume that is what you are talking about since the design is patented. Look here: I drive by Wayne Dalton I was going to suggest the same thing! The IDrive or a nice quiet liftmaster belt-drive system. Supposedly Liftmaster is coming out with a residential jack-shaft opener soon...when that is, I have no idea. I'm currently having the same debate on my soon-to-be constructed garage. |
Lou W |
Apr 21 2006, 09:52 AM
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"Here Kitty Kitty" my ass...... Group: Members Posts: 4,109 Joined: 9-May 04 From: Roseburg, OR. Member No.: 2,039 Region Association: Spain |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I Drive is the way to go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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rhodyguy |
Apr 21 2006, 09:55 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
if you have tall ceilings in the garage, consider high lift tracks. if you don't have little kids, you can mount the safety beams up out of the way. mine is right up at the openner its self. i can hit the button and walk out of the garage.
k |
So.Cal.914 |
Apr 21 2006, 10:20 AM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Remove rear tire off rim. Wrap rope around rim in a counter clock-wise direction
run other end of rope thru block and tackle and attach to door. First gear up. Reverse gear down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
Matt Meyer |
Apr 21 2006, 10:22 AM
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Überlurker Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Eastern Washington Member No.: 1,411 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The Wayne Dalton Idrive has a 10 second delay. So you can hit the button walk out of the garage before the door goes down. It also comes with an outside key pad if you install it yourself.
There is also a bunch of crap on the autoreversing feature at the website. Allegedly if you have some WD door with slip joints between panels you do not need to use the eyebeams. Excuse me I'm going to apply for reimbursement from Wayne Dalton's marketing dept now. |
914forme |
Apr 21 2006, 10:33 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I like screw drives myself. Last forever! The idrives I looked at just not sure if I can convince myself to do it just yet. Slick design, like the open section when the door is down. I would quite hitting my head when I am in the boat. But I had heard they can be a pain to setup, prone to failure etc.... But that all came from a guy trying so hard to sell me thousands of dollars worth of garage doors. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
If the iDrive works I say go for it. Currently my opener on the shop is, me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) |
zymurgist |
Apr 21 2006, 11:07 AM
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"Ace" Mechanic Group: Members Posts: 7,411 Joined: 9-June 05 From: Hagerstown, MD Member No.: 4,238 Region Association: None |
I have Genie screw drives. Quieter than the chain drive models, they open fast (close a little slower, but who cares), and are available at your favorite home supply stores.
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db9146 |
Apr 21 2006, 11:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 21-December 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 3,315 Region Association: None |
Go with the I-Drive. I've got two in the shop. They fit right above the door and leave the ceiling clear. My shop has 9' finished ceilings and I went with the I-Drive units in case I ever put one of the 4-post storage lifts in for more cars - that way I'll have more room above.
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rhodyguy |
Apr 21 2006, 11:45 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
although the dalton eliminates the center drive hanging from the ceiling, you have the actual tracks the door runs on. unless you go with the high lift tracks, the door will still be the same distance from the ceiling while open. the old school tracks i have hang 3' down from the ceiling.
k |
Bartlett 914 |
Apr 21 2006, 12:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have a question about the Idrive. Since this replaces the torsion springs, can you open the door in case of a power failure?. I looked to get one at my FLHS. I was told there was a recall and none of the stores had them. They were waiting on new models.
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JmuRiz |
Apr 21 2006, 12:53 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,427 Joined: 30-December 02 From: NoVA Member No.: 50 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have a question about the Idrive. Since this replaces the torsion springs, can you open the door in case of a power failure?. I looked to get one at my FLHS. I was tols there was a recall and none of the store hade them. They were waiting on new models. It doesn't replace the torsion springs, it just mounts on the same rod as the torsion springs (or the Wanye Dalton equivalent) |
rhodyguy |
Apr 21 2006, 12:58 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,080 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
for the record. a homeowner should NEVER tamper with the torsion bar spring!! i've seen a grusome sight or 2 due to a homeowner using a screwdriver to take the pressure off. it slips, and the spring unwinds at lightspeed. call a door company.
k |
smdubovsky |
Apr 21 2006, 01:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
No one has mentioned the crapsman belt drive yet? My dad has had a pair of them for 5+yrs now and they are whisper quiet. The rubber toothed belt damps all the vibrations.
SMD |
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