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> splitting case, why wont it come apart?
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:33 PM
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i have a dirty 2.0l case that wont come apart

im doing an entire rebuild and need the case opened to see what cam i have and for cleaning

there is some black stuff in the seams it kinda lookes cracked but its not moving

i was holding it by studs and had my brother pulling down ward as i had a friend hitting the seam with a rubber mallet and got no movement

from a said rail guy i heard use a propane tourch w/ a wide flame to loosen it up while pulling

any ideas?

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post Apr 26 2006, 06:37 PM
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Keep looking....ya missed a nut.
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:40 PM
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make sure you've undone every bolt, even one will stop it from budging. There are some bolts in odd places that can get easily covered in gunk . . . under the crank where the flywheel joins it, under the crank where the pulley joins it, on the bottom of the case hidden amongst the fins, and of course the one hidden between the lifter bores on the oil cooler side.
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:40 PM
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sure i didnt

ive had 5 different people look it all over when it was on my stand and everyone has said they are all out

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post Apr 26 2006, 06:43 PM
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Hmm, does look like that engine has been rebuilt judging by the epoxy over the galley plugs and the brown goo along the seam . . . looks like it might be permatex 3H which cleans up pretty well with acetone. Try some acetone along the seams to see if it loosens the goo up, it might help.
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(shaggy @ Apr 26 2006, 05:40 PM) *

sure i didnt

ive had 5 different people look it all over when it was on my stand and everyone has said they are all out

-shag



you need a block of wood and a couple of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:48 PM
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acetone huh?

ill have to try that tonight cuz all the bolts you listed i can bemember taking out

the ones under the flywheel and pump i had to use a u-joint thing for

thank
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post Apr 26 2006, 06:58 PM
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There's one or two that require a DEEP SOCKET and you can't really see and are accessed via long extension....if I remember....been awhile since I tore down a T-4.
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post Apr 26 2006, 07:00 PM
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If the engine does not split super easily you have a nut left in place.... Do you have my video, I go over EVERY nut because tons of cases are ruined because of ONE nut!
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post Apr 26 2006, 07:02 PM
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post Apr 26 2006, 07:20 PM
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Try the acetone, but you missed a nut. Notice a trend here? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 26 2006, 07:28 PM
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hahahahaha

ya i am noticing that

ill go look soon...

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post Apr 26 2006, 07:30 PM
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Is your oil pickup loose in the case? If the pickup doesn't wiggle around that's the bolt you missed. It's very deep in the case and very very easy to miss since it's usually completely covered in sludge.
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post Apr 26 2006, 07:34 PM
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"Is your oil pickup loose in the case?"
ya...i dont know that that is...

care to explain?

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post Apr 26 2006, 07:41 PM
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My engine had all of the nuts removed and wouldn't budge. I needed to use the hammer and a block to get it open. It didn't split very easily at all. It took me a long time to get it open.
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post Apr 26 2006, 07:45 PM
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Once you've removed the large round cover on the bottom of the case there is a tube which is where your oil gets sucked up by the pump. That tube should be very loose in the case. If it feels "attached" it probably is and there's your last bolt.
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post Apr 26 2006, 08:33 PM
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the oil pick up is loose in the case
it moves freely in all dirrections

i can hear/ feel the crank moving too is that means anything

on the driver side of the case(i dont know what cylinder #s corespond to what side)
there is a giant triple square bolt
does that have to come out?
other than that there are no bolts missed im sure of it
id use the acetone but my mommy isnt here to give me her nail polish remover and i dont have a sister... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

so i guess im out to dinner and will stop and pick some up

-shag
p.s. there tons of rtv on the flywheel side of the case
the main seal is rtved in
and the flat spots have rtv on them and it was placed there it isnt excess

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post Apr 26 2006, 08:50 PM
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Um,

You do have the OIL PUMP off, don't you?

I just thought I would start asking the obvious first and then narrow it down....


When did Mr Raby get back?
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post Apr 26 2006, 08:52 PM
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The triple square is the oil pressure relief spring, not related holding the case together.
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post Apr 26 2006, 08:55 PM
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When did Mr Raby get back?


He is not back yet....

Just working on my new site and pulling my hair out waiting for the changes to upload!
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