To paint or not to paint inside fenders? Options

[rickyhgarcia]

What is correct inside the fenders?

Paint with the same color of the car?

I have seen so many 914´s with black material in the fenders.

Mine actually has the black material...however, I am considering removing the black material and repainting the wheel wells the color of the car...Light Ivory.

If painted...is there a material to spray over the paint to protect it against rock and/or debriss picked up by the tires?

[Eric_Shea]

What is correct inside the fenders?

Paint with the same color of the car?

I have seen so many 914´s with black material in the fenders.

Mine actually has the black material...however, I am considering removing the black material and repainting the wheel wells the color of the car...Light Ivory.

If painted...is there a material to spray over the paint to protect it against rock and/or debriss picked up by the tires?

They were painted with the body from the factory.

For this forum... you don't want to put anything under it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

However! If you wanted some protection and not have it sanctioned by the CW body, you may be able to take a lead from the valance thread and spray it with the Wurth 'Shutz' first and then paint it.

I know of one tub that was finished that way and it came out looking great.

[rickyhgarcia]

Eric,

I had a feeling that painting the wheel wells was correct.

In another thread on this forum, however, somebody mentioned a rustproofing dealer option east of the Mississipi. Never heard of this before. Any idea what is it?

Anyway, my car shouldn´t have the black fenders since it was a California car.

[Pat Garvey]

What is correct inside the fenders?

Paint with the same color of the car?

I have seen so many 914´s with black material in the fenders.

Mine actually has the black material...however, I am considering removing the black material and repainting the wheel wells the color of the car...Light Ivory.

If painted...is there a material to spray over the paint to protect it against rock and/or debriss picked up by the tires?

They were painted with the body from the factory.

For this forum... you don't want to put anything under it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

However! If you wanted some protection and not have it sanctioned by the CW body, you may be able to take a lead from the valance thread and spray it with the Wurth 'Shutz' first and then paint it.

I know of one tub that was finished that way and it came out looking great.

I've seen several painted body color over the "shutz" & they look great until, just like paint-only, they start picking up stone chips in the paint - then the black of the shutz starts showing. Works well on a black car. Not OEM, but..........

[Eric_Shea]

Anyway, my car shouldn´t have the black fenders since it was a California car

Rust proofing was a dealer option in all states, or at least all dealers would offer such a feature. Companies like Ziebart were the craze back then. In fact, I think it's rare 'not' to see rustproofing sprayed in the wheel wells.

My CA tub has it as well. Saturn yellow showing through the flakes.

[rickyhgarcia]

Yeap...same here...white showing through the flakes.

Rustproofing being a dealer option...is it still not approved by the CW body?

[AvalonFal]

My '74 originally from Florida also the rustproofing (or what's left of it) with the red body paint showing through.

[914runnow]

Anyway, my car shouldn´t have the black fenders since it was a California car

Rust proofing was a dealer option in all states, or at least all dealers would offer such a feature. Companies like Ziebart were the craze back then. In fact, I think it's rare 'not' to see rustproofing sprayed in the wheel wells.

My CA tub has it as well. Saturn yellow showing through the flakes.

Hey Eric and All.....The 914's here in Gint Town (Colorado) are typically no undercoating...Which was usually a dealer desire for an extra sale..
Why it was not done here??????I have had 6 local cars myself and have seen another 5 or so the same way (no undercoating)....Most were undercoated before the dealer took possesion. Same as the A/C units, were done at the P.O.E. sites.....
Now as a local schooled judge..We really on a local scale could care less about undercoating on 912'-914's etc...till yah get to the 356's..All other models no biggie..IF you are going for a full concour..It just needs to be >clean<...
BUT it can be a tie breaker,if yours has it and the other car does not...
The factory had no intention ever to apply it...

[Jasfsmith]

Anyway, my car shouldn´t have the black fenders since it was a California car

Rust proofing was a dealer option in all states, or at least all dealers would offer such a feature. Companies like Ziebart were the craze back then. In fact, I think it's rare 'not' to see rustproofing sprayed in the wheel wells.

My CA tub has it as well. Saturn yellow showing through the flakes.

Hey Eric and All.....The 914's here in Gint Town (Colorado) are typically no undercoating...Which was usually a dealer desire for an extra sale..
Why it was not done here??????I have had 6 local cars myself and have seen another 5 or so the same way (no undercoating)....Most were undercoated before the dealer took possesion. Same as the A/C units, were done at the P.O.E. sites.....
Now as a local schooled judge..We really on a local scale could care less about undercoating on 912'-914's etc...till yah get to the 356's..All other models no biggie..IF you are going for a full concour..It just needs to be >clean<...
BUT it can be a tie breaker,if yours has it and the other car does not...
The factory had no intention ever to apply it...

This is not what I wanted to hear. I seem to recall (perhaps wishful thinking) seeing wheel wells with what appeared to be textured paint. Yes? (Please say yes <grin>)

[Brew]

You CW types have got to understand! (Dont worry, I'm a CW type too, just with a different car).

You CAN NOT drive a "Show Car" on the street!

If you're worried about undercoat protecting your paint from chips from normal driving, you're really not that worried about having a "show car".

JMHO!

[Eric_Shea]

I seem to recall (perhaps wishful thinking) seeing wheel wells with what appeared to be textured paint. Yes? (Please say yes <grin>)

Get out the scraper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

[914xr75]

I know it's over a decade since the last post on this thread, but I thought I'd share this picture of my Dad's light ivory California 914. It was only a few months old and did not have the undercoating in the wheel wells.

[Johny Blackstain]

My 74 was undercoated at the dealer- SOP back in 1974 Virginia. It's white underneath the undercoating.

[HeinrichKlee]

body color only.

[oakpark]

My 74 was undercoated at the dealer- SOP back in 1974 Virginia. It's white underneath the undercoating.

Mine has the undercoating, and it's pretty messy in its installation. I've concoured my car for a long time, both in my PCA region and nationally at the parade, but never where originality was the defining factor. Even so, since it was installed at the dealership, as a judge I would not deduct for it being there. The factor would be its condition and cleanliness.

[ndfrigi]

my current 74 Bahia Red project.

[orthobiz]

I seem to remember Steve Gaglione telling me the tale of laying on his back under the car and meticulously removing undercoating on his Sahara Beige 2.0. Wondering if 40 some odd years later if it comes off more easily...perhaps exposing pristine paint underneath.

Paul

My 74 was undercoated at the dealer- SOP back in 1974 Virginia. It's white underneath the undercoating.

Mine has the undercoating, and it's pretty messy in its installation. I've concoured my car for a long time, both in my PCA region and nationally at the parade, but never where originality was the defining factor. Even so, since it was installed at the dealership, as a judge I would not deduct for it being there. The factor would be its condition and cleanliness.

[IronHillRestorations]

Restoration trends have changed. For years it was very acceptable to paint the wheel wells black.

The current car I'm working on is going to be white, which is a plus, as I'm using white epoxy primer, white seam sealer, and white Gravitex, paint chips be dammed!

[JawjaPorsche]

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Rust proofing was a dealer option in all states, or at least all dealers would offer such a feature. Companies like Ziebart were the craze back then. In fact, I think it's rare 'not' to see rustproofing sprayed in the wheel wells.

My CA tub has it as well. Saturn yellow showing through the flakes.

I purchased my 914 new. The dealership tried real hard to sell me rustproofing but I held firm. Glad I did.

[bbrock]

Interesting to read through this thread and see how things have evolved. My car had gobs of black dealer-installed undercoating but during my resto, I opted for the modern version of paint over schutz which was to use body color tinted bed liner. Maybe not CW, but I like the compromise.

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