starter sticks "ON", a new one of rme..... |
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starter sticks "ON", a new one of rme..... |
Dr. Roger |
May 25 2006, 12:28 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
i just replaced the starter switch with an aftermarket dash mounted type.
the starter just got a little adjusting to allow the starter gear to throw a little furthur inward. I can bench start the starter and the solenoid moves the starter gear where it should be and the gear starts spinning. looks fine to me. i install the starter and wire it correctly, testing the wiring with a volt/oohm meter. then i go to turn over the motor with the ignition disconnected. i turn the key to the acc position and everything comes on. then i turn the key to the start position and the engine starts turning over. but when i release the key, the starter continues to turn over the engine. (this is where i preach the importance of having a main power shut off switch) LOL could it be the stupid switch? it releases under no load senario. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
bd1308 |
May 25 2006, 03:48 PM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
I dunno, it happened with my old engine...if i revved it for a second or two it would stop starting.
Uh, I replaced the engine and now the starter works fine again...(ground issue) OH. Yeah, check your ground strap...maybe? I dunno...would you like a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) b |
So.Cal.914 |
May 25 2006, 04:04 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
First check the switch with your V/O meter , see if the start circuit is switching off
when you release the key. Second are you sure that the starter is the correct one? Starters will hang up where the starter gear meets the flywheel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
Brian_Boss |
May 25 2006, 04:08 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 3-June 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 781 |
I'm betting it's a sticking solenoid on the starter.
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Leo Imperial |
May 25 2006, 04:11 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
Take it out and push start.
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SLITS |
May 25 2006, 04:24 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Is this the V8 conversion?
If so, you have to have a diode in the line to the ACC position on the switch, otherwise you'll have constant power thru the switch (AFAIR). And the possibililty that the copper contacts in the solenoid are sticking is possible too! |
lapuwali |
May 25 2006, 04:32 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
My bet is on the sticky solenoid. My starter did this, too (the starter keeps going after I release the key), and it only happened when I switched engine/gearbox pairs (new starter). Put in the starter from the old engine/gearbox, and the problem went away.
You want to get one of those nifty high-torque starters, anyway. You've just been looking for an excuse. You know you have... |
Mueller |
May 25 2006, 05:09 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
he is using a stock Chevy V8 starter.....I'm wondering if it has anything to do with you removing the cir-clip to increase the travel of the gear??
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Dr. Roger |
May 25 2006, 05:48 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
James is right, I have been looking for an excuse to buy one of those Hi-torque starters..... LOL and "yes" BD, I could use a cold one.... (too much time working and not enough time driving)
Mike, that's why i bench ran it to see if i could get it to stick but it operated perfectly. Just not while using the new switch... screwdriver.... so now i guess i'll test the switch again to ensure it's releasing on contact. if good then put the spacer back in which will give me only half of a gear engagement.... =-( then if it works i'll just get a skinnier spacer or swap it out for one of them new fangled Hy-torque puppies. THANKS GUYS! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) i feel like this 'effin horse sometimes.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) |
JPB |
May 25 2006, 06:23 PM
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The Crimson Rocket smiles in your general direction. Group: Members Posts: 2,927 Joined: 12-November 05 From: Tapmahamock, Va. Member No.: 5,107 |
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Good reason to have another one! Go Club! |
Dr. Roger |
May 25 2006, 06:45 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
wait a second......
could it be stuck because i've got the ignition turned off and therefore there is a constant pressure on the gears which won't let it go???? so if i turn the ignition on and the engine starts i wonder if the pressure between the flywheel and the starter gears wil release the starter gear???? no, that's stupid thinking... it usually stops turning over regardless of it starting or not. nevermind..... LOL back to the switch and the starter. |
wbergtho |
May 25 2006, 07:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 28-April 03 From: Roberts, WI Member No.: 623 |
I bought one of the mini Hi torque starters off E-Bay and it has worked just fine on my 11.2:1 compression V-8. I have a 911 starter that works fine...If you are interested, I'd sell it for cheap.
Regards, Bill |
Dr. Roger |
May 25 2006, 07:26 PM
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A bat out of hell. Group: Members Posts: 3,944 Joined: 31-January 05 From: Hercules, California Member No.: 3,533 Region Association: Northern California |
Bill,
by any chance did you notice if your starter gear fully engages the flywheel ring gear? that's why i'm dealing with this now. only sometimes was my starter grabbing hold of the ring gear.... |
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