Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Main Oil Seal Replacement with engine in car
pfan12000
post May 30 2006, 06:01 PM
Post #1


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 14
Joined: 9-March 05
From: Piscataway, NJ
Member No.: 3,734



Hi,

Anyone has posted the procedure to replace the (behind flywheel) crank main seal by removing only the tranny and leaving the engine mounted in the car?

Are flywheel bolts reusable or should one replace with new ones everytime the flywheel is removed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Mueller
post May 30 2006, 06:10 PM
Post #2


914 Freak!
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 17,146
Joined: 4-January 03
From: Antioch, CA
Member No.: 87
Region Association: None



one could look at the Haynes manual for guidance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

flywheel bolts and the locking plate (and felt washer) should be replaced, it's cheap insurance.....

hardest part will be holding up the rear of the engine, but it's do-able....

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Allan
post May 30 2006, 06:11 PM
Post #3


Teenerless Weenie
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,373
Joined: 5-July 04
From: Western Mesopotamia
Member No.: 2,304
Region Association: Southern California



You can replace the rear main seal with the motor in the car. You have to have a way to support it and remove the tranny.

The bolts need to be replaced as well as the washer. It's also a great opportunity to replace the pilot bearing, clutch fork bushings and felt washer.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
So.Cal.914
post May 30 2006, 06:23 PM
Post #4


"...And it has a front trunk too."
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 6,588
Joined: 15-February 04
From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J.
Member No.: 1,658
Region Association: None



Just bring the trans down so it has clearance to be removed. place jackstand

with a block of wood on top under engine, make sure it is stable. Remove trans from car,

remove flywheel and the rear seal. I use a hook tool, a small piece of wood and

a pair of visegrips, useing the piece of wood and the grips as a leaver. Install

new seal and reassemble. Have fun..

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
pfan12000
post May 30 2006, 10:02 PM
Post #5


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 14
Joined: 9-March 05
From: Piscataway, NJ
Member No.: 3,734



thanks guys,

I have access to a lift and a lift table to hold up the engine and tranny. I have done a clutch job many times on a 914 and 911 but this time I'm looking for shortcuts since my spare time is less available with a 2.5y old daughter. This engine is in need of rebuilding and for now I just want to stop the leak which makes for embarassingly smoky stops at lights.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Cap'n Krusty
post May 30 2006, 11:02 PM
Post #6


Cap'n Krusty
**********

Group: Members
Posts: 10,794
Joined: 24-June 04
From: Santa Maria, CA
Member No.: 2,246
Region Association: Central California



QUOTE(pfan12000 @ May 30 2006, 09:02 PM) *

thanks guys,

I have access to a lift and a lift table to hold up the engine and tranny. I have done a clutch job many times on a 914 and 911 but this time I'm looking for shortcuts since my spare time is less available with a 2.5y old daughter. This engine is in need of rebuilding and for now I just want to stop the leak which makes for embarassingly smoky stops at lights.


I can't believe you've done "many" clutch jobs on 914s and never just pulled the tranny. There's a well known Porsche guru who does them with the tranny hanging from the axles, still in the car. I thought EVERYBODY did clutch jobs with just the tranny out. BTW, replace the f/w o-ring, the washer, and the felt ring (if it's hard). Forget the bolts. 80 ft lbs is about half the torque those bolts can take, and they'll never break if torqued properly. Oil the seal on both the inner and outer surfaces, and push it in. Make sure it's seated evenly all the way around. BTW, when you get it down to an hour, call me. I'll have a job for you ............... Have fun. The Cap'n
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
pfan12000
post May 31 2006, 11:32 AM
Post #7


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 14
Joined: 9-March 05
From: Piscataway, NJ
Member No.: 3,734



Thanks Captain,
I'll call you when I can do it in less than 1 h. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jr91472
post May 31 2006, 12:42 PM
Post #8


"I'm pacing myself sergeant..."
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,205
Joined: 2-August 04
From: McKinney, TX
Member No.: 2,437



Follow the Cap'n advice to the letter. Then do a search on rear main seals for other tips. These buggers love to leak if you don't put them in correctly...btdt
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
MartyYeoman
post May 31 2006, 01:26 PM
Post #9


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,519
Joined: 19-June 03
From: San Ramon, CA
Member No.: 839
Region Association: Northern California



Be sure to check the sealing surface on the flywheel. If it isn't perfect (no pits, scratches, grooves etc) install a sleeve. It costs a lot less than a new flywheel and your new seal will appreciate it.

The transmission isn't all that heavy. When you are ready to reinstall it can be manhandled fairly easily.

Take your time.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
zymurgist
post May 31 2006, 03:04 PM
Post #10


"Ace" Mechanic
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 7,411
Joined: 9-June 05
From: Hagerstown, MD
Member No.: 4,238
Region Association: None



QUOTE(Marty Yeoman @ May 31 2006, 03:26 PM) *

Be sure to check the sealing surface on the flywheel. If it isn't perfect (no pits, scratches, grooves etc) install a sleeve. It costs a lot less than a new flywheel and your new seal will appreciate it.


Where are you finding sleeves? Granted, I don't know all the VW guys in my area, but none of them seemed to have any idea where to find a sleeve to fit one of these flywheels.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th May 2024 - 05:37 PM