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K&N OIL Filters, Anybody use them? |
jonwatts |
Feb 24 2003, 01:39 AM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
I went to my local Kragen autoparts today looking for oil filters for my Subaru engine and noticed (despite 10 yards of Fram filters) that they stock K&N oil filters. I didn't even know they were making oil filters. I usually buy OEM but was wondering if anyone has any input on these things (perhaps on their other cars / wife's car). Not sure how often I'd buy one at $10 a pop but if I were in a jam I'd use one.
http://www.knfilters.com/ |
Brad Roberts |
Feb 24 2003, 01:41 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
What does Subaru use from the factory ??
I have tried a few filters on my truck by havent noticed any differences between the Fram Double Guard or the cheaper crappy one they sell. B |
jonwatts |
Feb 24 2003, 01:47 AM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
It came with a Subaru factory filter. Not sure what the price is, need to get friendly with the parts guys at the local dealership. It's a tiny thing (smaller than a Mahle T4 filter). If it's near the $10 I'll just use the K&N. They say they have the no-backflow valve to help hold oil in the crankcase and prevent dry starts (this is good to have for turbos / superchargers).
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Brad Roberts |
Feb 24 2003, 01:56 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I run Mobil1 in everything but the tube car so 10$ filters dont really bother me when I'm paying 4$ a quart for oil. Splurge this one time and buy the K+N filter.
Cut apart the old filter and inspect the "paper" they use. Run the K+N and cut it apart when it's do for the next oil change. B |
Dave Cawdrey |
Feb 24 2003, 02:09 AM
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Dumbo going poop, Daddy :) Group: Members Posts: 818 Joined: 22-January 03 From: Seattle, WA USA Member No.: 182 |
One thing about Subaru oil filters is Fram's dont work properly. I had a 92 Turbo Sport Sedan (Legacy) for a few years, and Fram is frownd upon in Subaru.
I am a stickler for details, starting w/ OEM parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
jonwatts |
Feb 24 2003, 02:14 AM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
I like Brad's idea of cutting them open for comparison. Let's see how the band saw at work does on the OEM one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mark Henry |
Feb 24 2003, 01:37 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
On my bugs I use the big pumps with the Full Flow filter adaptors. I could use the cheap PH-8A filters, but I once had one on it and on a cold morning it blew up like a balloon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I have always used the HP-1 Fram but some guys are saying that they don't like them. Any experience or problems with them? On the stock T4 I've always used OEM. |
Dave_Darling |
Feb 24 2003, 04:17 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,986 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
I won't use Fram, ever. :finger2:
A couple of pages from someone who did take apart a bunch of filters, and posted what he found-- http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters.html http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html --DD |
jonwatts |
Feb 24 2003, 04:48 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
Wow Dave, excellent site (even tho they don't mention the K&N).
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Mark Henry |
Feb 24 2003, 05:43 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Feb 24 2003, 02:17 PM) A couple of pages from someone who did take apart a bunch of filters, and posted what he found-- http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters.html http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html --DD Now that I believe that a lot more than "they say" Mobil 1 looks good, but I have some more reading to do. I should mount the 'Puter in the shitter, I do most of my reading in there anyways. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pain30.gif) |
ChrisReale |
Mar 26 2003, 12:17 AM
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Sleazy Group: Members Posts: 2,665 Joined: 20-January 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 176 |
I found a gift card for Schucks in my pants after they went through the wash. Had enough left on it for a K&N oil filter. Ill cut :gilloutine: the old Mahle in half, and do the same with the K&N after I have some use out of it.
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givory |
Mar 26 2003, 06:07 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: 10-January 03 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 125 |
After a nearly disaster using the Fram Double Guard, I switched to the K&N for my /6 vintage racer, and won't be going back to the Fram. It seems to have an unusually fat/soft rubber o-ring, which in my case blew out while on track. Since my filter is front trunk mounted, oil sprayed everywhere nearly emptying a 13L sump tank, getting under my tires, and off track I flew. What a mess. That's my experience, anyways.
Gavin Ivory VARAC #58 |
Mark Henry |
Mar 26 2003, 07:29 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
This is the only reason why I have always used the Fram HP-1! I'm paying 3 time's the cash just for a stronger can.
I would never use a PH-8A or a double guard. I will try the K&N or the Mobil 1 next time. |
Mark Henry |
Mar 26 2003, 07:36 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
I hate to hear that my fav filter is just an el'cheapo in a good can' but I've never had this happen and I've got a big pump and rev my bug up to 7000rpm.
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Mark Henry |
Mar 26 2003, 07:40 AM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
The above photo's were lifted (OK, stolen) from Tom Perso's thread on the STF. Here's the whole thread if you want to read it:
http://shoptalkforums.com/bbs/NonCGI/Forum...TML/005387.html |
Targa |
Mar 26 2003, 01:52 PM
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V Member Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 26-December 02 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 18 |
I like K&N oil filters. They are easy to remove and install as you can use a crescent wrench. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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ArtechnikA |
Apr 5 2003, 10:59 PM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(jonwatts @ Feb 23 2003, 11:39 PM) I went to my local Kragen autoparts today looking for oil filters for my Subaru engine and noticed (despite 10 yards of Fram filters) that they stock K&N oil filters. i use a K&N oil filter on the E-Prepared ur-GTI. one very nice thing about that hex nut on the bottom is that it's already drilled for a safety wire hole. last time i checked, they DO NOT make a filter that fits any modern Subaru (or there would be one in the '97 Legacy Outback right now). check the application book and if your vehicle is not listed, make -real sure- the place will take a filter back (and don't pitch the old one!) if the threads are wrong. i'd love to use a K&N filter on the Subie but the dealer filters are only $6.50 so i can't complain... |
J P Stein |
Apr 5 2003, 11:11 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Reading your way back thru the posts, Rich?
This one was off page 6 so ya gots a long ways to go. |
jonwatts |
Apr 5 2003, 11:54 PM
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no rules, just wrong Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,321 Joined: 13-January 03 From: San Jose, CA Member No.: 141 |
QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Apr 5 2003, 08:59 PM) last time i checked, they DO NOT make a filter that fits any modern Subaru (or there would be one in the '97 Legacy Outback right now). I'll have to triple check that. I believe they had a listing for the 2002 WRX which is the same as my motor (EJ20). I liked the hex nut feature too, though I haven't had to much trouble removing an oil filter in the last 12 years. |
ArtechnikA |
Apr 6 2003, 12:19 AM
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rich herzog Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(jonwatts @ Apr 5 2003, 09:54 PM) I'll have to triple check that. I believe they had a listing for the 2002 WRX which is the same as my motor (EJ20). I liked the hex nut feature too, though I haven't had to much trouble removing an oil filter in the last 12 years. i haven't needed much more than my big slipjoint pliers to pull a filter in a long time so i don't think there's -that- much value in the nut feature. i -do- like the safety wire hole, and use it in the ur-GTI, but i don't know where i'd fasten it in the Subie -- which is unlikely to see any track time anyway... i'll check my FLAPS for new applications too -- it's been a year since i checked, and they had nothing for anything much newer than a BRAT at that time - nothing for the 2,5 at all (and the early one won't fit a '97 2,5 - thank you for not asking how i'm so sure...) |
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