Color of Engine Lid Rubber Stop Holders |
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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
Color of Engine Lid Rubber Stop Holders |
AvalonFal |
Jun 5 2006, 10:08 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 3-July 05 From: Southern New Jersey Coast Member No.: 4,367 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Here's a couple of obscure ?'s. What's the correct color of the sheet metal bracket where the engine lid rubber stops screw into next to the side grilles? The vertical section of the bracket is body color, but what about the flat section where the rubber stops are? My '74 has the flats painted black, but is that correct? Or should they be body color?
How about the sheet metal under the engine lid side grilles? Black or body color?? |
BS Chairman |
Jun 5 2006, 10:49 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 28 |
Here's a couple of obscure ?'s. What's the correct color of the sheet metal bracket where the engine lid rubber stops screw into next to the side grilles? The vertical section of the bracket is body color, but what about the flat section where the rubber stops are? My '74 has the flats painted black, but is that correct? Or should they be body color? How about the sheet metal under the engine lid side grilles? Black or body color?? Hi AvalonFal, I believe that only the face is painted flat black. I may be wrong but thats how its been all the 914s that I have owned. Also the underside of engine lid should be body color if tray was removed. Gary |
tod914 |
Jun 5 2006, 11:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
Maybe someone can chime in to confirm what BS said, but i dont think its flat black.. more like satin black. paint fades after 30 years. try to buff and wax it and see if it is still flat. my shined up after i did that. This is before. I wanted to refinish the grill but i cant get those back clips to budge :S guess i resort to touch up. When i got in from underneath the grill, the dull looking black looked more satin after cleaning.
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dcheek |
Jun 5 2006, 03:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
AvalonFal,
See post "1976 914 Zone I Winner" in the Concours section of the 914 Club Forum. These are pictures of my original 23800 mile car. There are some good shots of the engine compartment that might answer your questions. If you want you can stop by my house (I live in Westfield NJ) to take a look. Just E mail me at dmcdavey@aol.com David Cheek |
tod914 |
Jun 5 2006, 03:44 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,755 Joined: 19-January 03 From: Lincoln Park, NJ Member No.: 170 |
So Dave whats the consensous, flat or satin?
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dcheek |
Jun 5 2006, 03:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
So Dave whats the consensous, flat or satin? Tod, Its definitely satin not flat. I would use Masury Satin Black. I still have some left over from years ago. Masury is no longer in business or at least they don't make satin black anymore. Paterek has found a suitable substitute that he uses on 356 restorations. I've seen it and it looks correct. Dave |
AvalonFal |
Jun 5 2006, 04:00 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 483 Joined: 3-July 05 From: Southern New Jersey Coast Member No.: 4,367 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks everyone for your replies. Satin black it will be.
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Pat Garvey |
Jun 5 2006, 05:37 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
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1970 Neun vierzehn |
Jun 6 2006, 10:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
As most members on this particular Forum are aware, the 914 manufacturing process was an ongoing design, material and construction evolution. The color of my '70/4 engine lid rubber stop holders is (original) body color(yellow). So continuing the wealth of information that we are slowly accumulating here, we should always add the caveat for what applies to particular model years, trim levels, engine displacement, and maybe even color!
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TJB/914 |
Jun 6 2006, 12:48 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,330 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Mr. 1970 neunVierzehn
Now, now the councours police have made it official "it's satin black". I would question anyone (yor car) having body color. I would believe (100%) somewhere in it's life it came from the factory with satin black paint. If I were judging your 914 I would nick you a point or two. I know this is supposed to be fun, but the concourse police say "satin black". Do we have a chisel in stone smilie??? Tom |
dcheek |
Jun 6 2006, 01:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
As most members on this particular Forum are aware, the 914 manufacturing process was an ongoing design, material and construction evolution. The color of my '70/4 engine lid rubber stop holders is (original) body color(yellow). So continuing the wealth of information that we are slowly accumulating here, we should always add the caveat for what applies to particular model years, trim levels, engine displacement, and maybe even color! You are absolutely correct. As with vintage VW's there are continuous production changes throughout the entire product cycle. So I should make it clear that any questions pertaining to originality that I answer are for the 1976 914 model year only. Owners of other years can chime in with what they know. Sorry for the oversight. Tom, As for the "Concours Police" comment I can only say that the question was posted and I answered it based on what I know. For all I care the owner can paint it dayglow orange. It's his car, his decision and he can do what ever he wants. I make absolutely no judgement about how someone owns, maintains, modifies his or her car. My intention is to help a fellow enthusiast. As far as I'm concerned the owner is the "Policeman" of their own car. Dave |
TJB/914 |
Jun 6 2006, 02:41 PM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,330 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Dave,
What did I say to get your blood pressure up. Sheesh, it's a tough crowd today. I was only trying to say this is a councours forum and the correct answer is satin black. Of course we want your opinion & this answer was for you when you judge at the concours. How about a group hug (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Tom |
dcheek |
Jun 6 2006, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
Dave, What did I say to get your blood pressure up. Sheesh, it's a tough crowd today. I was only trying to say this is a councours forum and the correct answer is satin black. Of course we want your opinion & this answer was for you when you judge at the concours. How about a group hug (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Tom Tom, No offense taken. Just thought you and others would want to know where I'm coming from. Hug accepted and given. Dave |
Pat Garvey |
Jun 6 2006, 08:33 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Dave, What did I say to get your blood pressure up. Sheesh, it's a tough crowd today. I was only trying to say this is a councours forum and the correct answer is satin black. Of course we want your opinion & this answer was for you when you judge at the concours. How about a group hug (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) Tom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Tom, You've had a bad week here! Maybe time for some sensitivity training (kidding!). Please folks, sensitize! And...do NOT forget - we ARE the ""concours police", undt, ve haff spies efferyvhere! |
Rusty |
Jun 7 2006, 01:45 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Maybe someone can chime in to confirm what BS said, but i dont think its flat black.. more like satin black. paint fades after 30 years. try to buff and wax it and see if it is still flat. my shined up after i did that. This is before. I wanted to refinish the grill but i cant get those back clips to budge :S guess i resort to touch up. When i got in from underneath the grill, the dull looking black looked more satin after cleaning. In all the 914s that I've owned, only one was (mostly) original paint. On that car, it was obvious that the satin black was sprayed over body color. I don't have much to add to this forum... but I could easily become a CW if I had the time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) -Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
Pat Garvey |
Jun 7 2006, 07:16 AM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
As most members on this particular Forum are aware, the 914 manufacturing process was an ongoing design, material and construction evolution. The color of my '70/4 engine lid rubber stop holders is (original) body color(yellow). So continuing the wealth of information that we are slowly accumulating here, we should always add the caveat for what applies to particular model years, trim levels, engine displacement, and maybe even color! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Particularly with the very early models. Concstruction seemed to be a work in progress. Never could really figure out when things settled down, because some original owner would always come up with a new variation. When I bought my 72 1.7 in August of 72 I was offered the NEW Fuchs alloys. They were too pricey & I turned them down. Had I bought them I'd have some tall explaining to do & probably would never be able to convince a jusge without doc's in hand. But most of the aberrations came from the very early production 914's. Paul, what's the production date for your 1970? |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Jun 7 2006, 11:38 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
Oberconcoursfuhrer,
Blt 01.1970 Color: L11E #4702903114 and the stop holders ARE body color on this early 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) |
Pat Garvey |
Jun 7 2006, 04:31 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? Group: Members Posts: 5,899 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
Oberconcoursfuhrer, Blt 01.1970 Color: L11E #4702903114 and the stop holders ARE body color on this early 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alfred.gif) Ach! Zee, und early model. Maybe zeh iss original und maybe zeh iss not, zee uberjudge vil determine, eh? |
1970 Neun vierzehn |
Aug 7 2006, 11:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,199 Joined: 16-March 06 From: cincinnati, ohio Member No.: 5,727 |
IT'S BACK!
This thread and my camera. Here's an original engine lid opening detail...note the body colored engine lid stopper mounts. Attached image(s) |
Bleyseng |
Aug 8 2006, 12:09 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My early 70 1.7L had yellow engine lid stop brackets also.
I wonder when the change occured??? |
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