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> 18"s too much for teener rims?, i want stiffffff sidewalls.
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post Jun 18 2006, 01:07 AM
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ive seen many 17s on 914s and it seems like the profile could allow for 1" larger rims and still have some tires. about how much sidewall is left with 17s?? how much more jarring is a 914 with 17s as compared with 16's?
anybody have pictures of 18's on a 914?

experiences/facts would be nice. opinions arent of much use, i dont much care how you think it will look. and if you havent ridden in a 914 with 18's, im not sure you could tell me much about how it would ride either.

i talk big, but someday maybe ill have the big money; i intend on making this a track car, hopefully somewhere in the range of a 200mph topspeed. i think some lightweight 18s would be appropriate for such a purpose.
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post Jun 18 2006, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(banksyinoz @ Jun 18 2006, 12:58 AM) *

god i love this club so much experience saves so much time and money



Well saves time, I don't know about the money saving parts especially for what I want to do.
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:01 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) yeah im hearin ya but it sure helps to get the right parts first (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:12 AM
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so i plan on flaring, lowering, and getting the 5lug stuff as well as coilovers stiff springs and all that. i just want to be pretty sure i can make it work. i work in a machine shop so some fabrication is possible but im hoping that with the right rotors hubs and spacers/offsetting i can fit these rims. 18x8s and 18x10s.
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:14 AM
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Which rims are those? Depeding on the wheels offset and back spacing, you're looking at spacers between 1" - 2.5"
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:18 AM
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QUOTE(monkei @ Jun 18 2006, 01:12 AM) *

so i plan on flaring, lowering, and getting the 5lug stuff as well as coilovers stiff springs and all that. i just want to be pretty sure i can make it work. i work in a machine shop so some fabrication is possible but im hoping that with the right rotors hubs and spacers/offsetting i can fit these rims. 18x8s and 18x10s.



you cannot use the 964 suspension....yes, the rims bolt on, but the suspension is too far off from being even close to working with the stock tub.........You'll need flares..period, so if you have flares, the rims will fit with spacers cause you'll have to have spacers as well....at least the spacers I know you can make at your shop.....
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:21 AM
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heres what they look like. they resemble wheels sold as "turbo" or "boxster" wheels on ebay. ill have to contact the seller about offset numbers.


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post Jun 18 2006, 02:24 AM
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i also actually have drawings for 5 lug hubs that i might be able to get turned. im not sure but i think theyre designed to mount on a 4 lug spindle.

so what do most 914 owners do when they upgrade to 5 lug? just change hubs and keep 914 specific struts and mounts?
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:27 AM
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I think with those wheels you would need really thick spacers to get them to fit on the car.
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(monkei @ Jun 18 2006, 01:21 AM) *

heres what they look like. they resemble wheels sold as "turbo" or "boxster" wheels on ebay. ill have to contact the seller about offset numbers.



right now it does not matter what the offset is, the size of the spacers will be partly dictated by the flare...right now, who cares what the offset is,,,,,you'll need spacers....unless you build a tube frame car and use a radically different suspension...then you can install them with no spacers...

so, yes, the rims can work, and those have been mounted before on a 914...now just save your money....of course now most of the newer 997s are coming out with 19" rims so just wait for someone to ask the same question all over again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:37 AM
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does anyone make 18s with a bakspacing brought in toward the hub a fair amount to reduce the amount of spacer that would be required?
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:41 AM
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oh, and to answer your question.

to the best of my knowledge, no. not in a modern porsche wheel.

spacers are required.
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:46 AM
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thats sweet.

how much spacer on yours? whats the wheel width? what hubs/rotors? suspension? are those gt flares i see?
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE(monkei @ Jun 18 2006, 01:37 AM) *

does anyone make 18s with a bakspacing brought in toward the hub a fair amount to reduce the amount of spacer that would be required?



sure, expect to pay at a minimum, $500 per rim for 3 piece wheels....

as far as I know, nobody exept for Ron Mistaks (sp?) car is running a suspension more modern than 1989 911 stuff (911, not 964, since both had been made in 1989)....
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post Jun 18 2006, 02:54 AM
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wheel width: 8's and 11's

hubs and rotors: complete 911 front end. rear is spaced 914 caliper with vented 911 rotors with reduced diameter to fit the caliper and maintaining E brake (street car).

flares are sheridan.

see the last pages of my progress thread for more in depth answers to all of your questions HERE
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post Jun 18 2006, 03:02 AM
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ouch...those rear tires are almost $400 each.......wow.....
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post Jun 18 2006, 03:04 AM
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so i could do the turbo rims and spacers until i can afford to do a full tubeframe right so i can mount 993 or later suspension and then ill buy the superlightweight three piece 18s...or maybe 19s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

i still would like to know, and im sure you could answer mueller: would a late eighties 911 5 lug hub and 914 aftermarket struts/coilovers with stiff springs with bearing-trailing arms and upgraded torsion bars sway bars be good enough for a 180+mph track car? or will i need a full tube chassis tied to the suspension as well as motor and transmission. i had planned on doing a full length roll cage and perhaps tying it into the motor/trans mounting but i had intended on leaving suspension attatched to unibody. im intrigued by the thought of going as far as tying the cage to the suspension as well but even more so by the idea of perhaps using the cage as an opportunity to mount more advanced/capable suspension and drivetrain maybe even one with a 928 powerplant. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

i know some of the expenses involved but i dont know about everyone else im taking it slow and im trying to do the right research and do the job right the first time. its going to be a looooooooooong project. im only in rustoration phase. but the wheels are a deal at 250$ and i feel like itd be a good start....
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post Jun 18 2006, 03:13 AM
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I'm sure the stock based suspension "could" be modifed to work will approaching 180 mph, but you would not catch me trying to go that fast in anything related to a 914...even less willing to do it in a full caged car with 993/996/997 or more modern suspension unless it was put together and tested by a professional racing team (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 18 2006, 03:29 AM
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Jun 18 2006, 01:02 AM) *

ouch...those rear tires are almost $400 each.......wow.....


Yeah after looking around ALOT I kinda realized that 18 inch tires are gonna be expensive. Probably not gonna gain any performace there either with all the extra wheel weight. In 16 I found you are very limited to the wheels you can use so again it seemed the tires where a bit exspensive. Not to many companys make multiple width 16s. Seems 17s are the best choice.
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post Jun 18 2006, 04:15 AM
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roger is the man read the thread cheers
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