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Pat Garvey
post Jul 30 2006, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(boxstr @ Jul 29 2006, 11:13 PM) *

Here are a few rear trunk shots.
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Hey Craig,

Could that possibly be Body Shutz under the paint?
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post Jul 30 2006, 02:52 PM
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Here's some shots from my all-original 1976 2.0 (build date late November 1975) which I bought just a few weeks ago with 24,500 miles. A few of them came out a little dark I'm afraid. I'm not really a concours type of guy, but I'm posting because at a recent get-together a fellow 914 owner who knows about originality told me it could be concours material with a little cleaning (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Trunk with insulation mat in place, notice the unsightly blobs of unmatching paint left over after ripping out the rear reflector and temporarily closing up the holes it left. Lesson: After 30 years the touch-up paint stick may not match the original color anymore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 30 2006, 05:15 PM
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Yes, another Nepal Orange 76!

Nice car. I have the rear reflector still in place as its a pain to fix those holes! Yours still has the decals atleast as mine were ripped off leaving a shadow mark.
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post Jul 30 2006, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Jul 30 2006, 07:15 PM) *

Yes, another Nepal Orange 76!

Nice car. I have the rear reflector still in place as its a pain to fix those holes! Yours still has the decals atleast as mine were ripped off leaving a shadow mark.


Thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) My reflector just had to go, with the intermittent solenoid it was impossible to take off the top and store it in the trunk.

I'll try to find a little paint that matches better to at least hide the holes more. I'm a bit afraid of the work involved in fixing this for good, with welding and respraying that area...
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post Oct 12 2006, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jul 28 2006, 03:21 PM) *

Does everyone know that the chassis number is actually a code with embedded meaning about your 914?

Jeff,

Enlighten the masses, pleas?
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post Oct 12 2006, 10:44 PM
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post Oct 13 2006, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Jul 28 2006, 12:21 PM) *

Does everyone know that the chassis number is actually a code with embedded meaning about your 914?



What about the 914's that don't have this stamped code anywhere??

Nothing on my 76....
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post Oct 14 2006, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 13 2006, 12:44 AM) *

Jeff,
That's pretty cool!

Fits perfectly w/my numbers.

Thanks to Dave too, who will soon become the member of the fugliest set of foglight grills!

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post Oct 15 2006, 06:35 PM
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i have had two 1970 914's (four cylinders) the first was about serial #1600 or so, and the latest is serial #1300.

On both of the them, the muffler heat shield is screwed to the trunk floor, later cars got them wleded in place.

Both early cars I had had minimal seam sealer in the trunk. The earliest had almost no sealer at all, many seams on the shock mount tower had none what so ever!

Is this a sign of an early car, or variation during production (ie Hans the sealer guy took the day off) i do not know?

But lack of sealer or minimal sealer was found on both my early cars. The 1600+/- serial number car had a build bate of nov or Oct 1969 per the door sticker, the #1300 car door sticker is not present.

On my #1600 car, dispite a letter from the factory (per my request) stating it was a USA spec car, had no vapor recovery system, no carbon can, no hoses, no holes for hoses, even the fan housing boss for the vapor line was not drilled out.

Forget if the 1300 car has vapor system of not, it is not at my house right now, so I will need to check it out too.

I bet the early cars rust more, with the lack of seam sealer.
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post Oct 16 2006, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(dmenche914 @ Oct 15 2006, 08:35 PM) *

i have had two 1970 914's (four cylinders) the first was about serial #1600 or so, and the latest is serial #1300.

On both of the them, the muffler heat shield is screwed to the trunk floor, later cars got them wleded in place.

Both early cars I had had minimal seam sealer in the trunk. The earliest had almost no sealer at all, many seams on the shock mount tower had none what so ever!

Is this a sign of an early car, or variation during production (ie Hans the sealer guy took the day off) i do not know?

But lack of sealer or minimal sealer was found on both my early cars. The 1600+/- serial number car had a build bate of nov or Oct 1969 per the door sticker, the #1300 car door sticker is not present.

On my #1600 car, dispite a letter from the factory (per my request) stating it was a USA spec car, had no vapor recovery system, no carbon can, no hoses, no holes for hoses, even the fan housing boss for the vapor line was not drilled out.

Forget if the 1300 car has vapor system of not, it is not at my house right now, so I will need to check it out too.

I bet the early cars rust more, with the lack of seam sealer.

I would think so.

I've seen 914's w/almost NO sealer & my '72, which "Hans" must have been having a good day with the sealer - looks like he used more than his alottment!
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post Oct 16 2006, 11:18 PM
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What about the 914's that don't have this stamped code anywhere??

Nothing on my 76....


Maybe DaveP will chime in to verify...I dont think the 76 cars had the chassis # stamped into the rear trunk floor ...but it does appear on the skinny riveted plate on the pass side wheel well (below the tire board) in the front trunk and also on the Karmann drivers door pillar plate. The decoder above works on the the late cars too.
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post Nov 14 2006, 10:56 AM
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post Nov 14 2006, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(brant @ Nov 14 2006, 01:56 PM) *

I wanna post in this forum at least once:

Umm, Brant - gorgeous finish!
Now, what about the rest of the car.....

BTW, you're missing some trunk plugs & what is up with the lights wiring?
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Nov 14 2006, 08:09 PM) *

QUOTE(brant @ Nov 14 2006, 01:56 PM) *

I wanna post in this forum at least once:

Umm, Brant - gorgeous finish!
Now, what about the rest of the car.....

BTW, you're missing some trunk plugs & what is up with the lights wiring?



oops..
sorry pat, I was crashing the thread.
the rest of the car is featured ad naseum right:
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the wiring is because its a race car.
single strand of airplane wiring runs 4 rear brake bulbs...
(air plane grade wiring has a lighter insulation and the car was built with weight in mind!)

for example:


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post Nov 16 2006, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(brant @ Nov 15 2006, 12:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Nov 14 2006, 08:09 PM) *

QUOTE(brant @ Nov 14 2006, 01:56 PM) *

I wanna post in this forum at least once:

Umm, Brant - gorgeous finish!
Now, what about the rest of the car.....

BTW, you're missing some trunk plugs & what is up with the lights wiring?



oops..
sorry pat, I was crashing the thread.
the rest of the car is featured ad naseum right:
HERE

the wiring is because its a race car.
single strand of airplane wiring runs 4 rear brake bulbs...
(air plane grade wiring has a lighter insulation and the car was built with weight in mind!)

for example:

Brant - interesting. I keep learning here!

With that in mind (and I know ounces are important in racing), how did you determine the spots to be drilled on the hood? Obviously, structural rigidity is not paramount for a hood.

Yeah, I know, this isn't CW stuff, but I'm curious!
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post Nov 16 2006, 10:59 PM
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Pat,

I'm sorry this has turned into such a hijack...
regarding the front hood....
I first tried to remove the bracing on the rear hood: (see below)
in doing that I learned that the sheetmetal alone is way too flimsy to support itself.
I had to go back with balsa wood strips on the rear hood to give its shape back.
(it was sagging 6 inches from its own weight)

so when I got around to doing the front hood, I knew it would never withstand the aero force at speed with all of the bracing gone. I knew that I couldn't gut it completely... so decided to drill.

the diagonal braces seemed to be all of the real strength from my observations
this is backed up by the fact that they are the first thing to kink or show damage from any accident, and that the diagonals support all of the frontal force.

so the diagonals were left alone.

and then all of the rest of it, was just drilled to the biggest hole I could fit relative to the size of the area being drilled.


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QUOTE(dmenche914 @ Oct 15 2006, 04:35 PM) *


Both early cars I had had minimal seam sealer in the trunk. The earliest had almost no sealer at all, many seams on the shock mount tower had none what so ever!

Is this a sign of an early car, or variation during production (ie Hans the sealer guy took the day off) i do not know?

But lack of sealer or minimal sealer was found on both my early cars. The 1600+/- serial number car had a build bate of nov or Oct 1969 per the door sticker, the #1300 car door sticker is not present.

I bet the early cars rust more, with the lack of seam sealer.


Lookit, not much seam sealer........


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same Scarlet (Mars) Red car. check out the condition of the 2 white floor plugs. the rear trunk pad and carpet are as new but not pictured. boner.

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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jan 8 2007, 12:50 PM) *

same Scarlet (Mars) Red car. check out the condition of the 2 white floor plugs. the rear trunk pad and carpet are as new but not pictured. boner.

k

Rhody,

VERY nice finish! I'd guess that yours is a late '72 or later car. But, what's with the rear lighting wiring? Should be tucked away up in the taillight/lock asembly area.
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