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Oil coolers for racing idiots |
grantsfo |
Jun 21 2006, 06:55 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
OK so I'm thrashing the 2.4 six in our 90 + degree weather today up my favorite mountain road and notice the temp gauge slowly creeping up up up! ...I need to install an oil cooler as many had said. Need to get it on the car before Hoopla.
Since I'm a mechanical idiot I need help figuring out exactly what I need to buy to mount a front oil cooler. What specific cooler, make and model number is the best for front mount? What kind of hoses, number, size length do I need to go from the engine to front trunk and back? What kinds of fittings do I need to buy, size and quantity? Anything else? Thermostat? Can I get most of the stuff from Summit? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/givemebeer.gif) |
DanT |
Jun 21 2006, 07:10 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Grant, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
you can get the hose and fittings from Royal Brass here in San Jose. I got 25 feet of hose and had one cut 12' and one 13'. You might need more since you are going to the driver side and on my four I only had to go to the passenger side. They will even install the end fittings for you right there so you don't have to fight with it. As far as size I use AN10 IIRC. Coolers, like Mocal, seatrab etc can be gotten from many sources. The exact size of cooler you use will depend on how you decide to mount it. short and wide for front vertical. More square for floor mount like mine. I would not use any thing smaller than a 19 row if you go with a 11 inch wide model. I have a 25 row and my car runs very cool. |
grantsfo |
Jun 21 2006, 07:25 PM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
Floor mount seems to be the vogue location and I dont have a GT front end so I think floor mount will be what i do.
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DanT |
Jun 21 2006, 08:08 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Grant,
here is the link to my initial install pics http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=47338&hl= |
drew365 |
Jun 21 2006, 08:09 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
I'm pretty sure I bought 30 ft. of braided hose and had 3 ft. left. I would make your own measurements for each line with an old garden hose if you have one. No use having it too long and taking up space and you certainly don't want to be 6" too short. I used AN-12 and ran both lines through the passenger side heat duct, into the cabin at the passenger floor against the wheel well and up into the trunk through a ready made shaft that you just have to open the two ends. The two AN-12 lines just fit through these spots. It's so tight that I couldn't have the ends on the front of the lines, so I cut off the excess line and attached the ends in the trunk which wasn't easy but I haven't had a leak in three seasons. I use a Motec thermostat because a new one came with my car, it works fine in a hot climate like L.A. I used a Porsche oil cooler with a 930 part number. Again, because it came in a big box of parts with my car. I don't think I've seen my car go over 200deg. since I installed the oil cooler, I was regularly seeing 250 before I did it.
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DanT |
Jun 21 2006, 08:17 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
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Trekkor |
Jun 21 2006, 09:24 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
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J P Stein |
Jun 21 2006, 09:35 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
12 AN minimum.
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brant |
Jun 22 2006, 08:27 AM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,618 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
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Aaron Cox |
Jun 22 2006, 04:05 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
*mechanical idiot* ? this is not for you then. you screw up and your motor dies. pay someone.
now... bigger is better. again, minimum AN- 12 lines (that is 12/16" ID), biggest cooler you can afford (saves you from upgrading when you get a huger motor) and a MoCal thermostat from racerpartswholesale.com (again -12 size) floor mount may be *adequate* for slight cooling, but ideally you need ram air and a good floor exit. lots of air flow is what makes it stay cool. spend the money, do it right, and no problems later in life when you got a 3.6 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
brant |
Jun 22 2006, 04:45 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,618 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
oh yeah...
I lived through the barely adequate situation on my old car. had to use 3 different cooler mounting locations before I achieved enough cooling... and if you don't remember my long story.. I tried all 3 of these with the same exact cooler. Same exact thermostat. same exact motor. each of the 3 different mounting locations dropped the temperature another 20F so rather than go through this 3 seperate times, I would recommend doing it Right the first time... frontal air is good. brant |
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