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> Weltmeister vs. Ground Control rear coilover conversion kit?, anybody have experience with these?
Dave_Darling
post Jun 23 2006, 04:23 PM
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I have the Weltmeisters. Got them about eight or ten years ago, when nobody else would fess up to making 'em for 914s. They work fine--nothing super special about them. The springs are short enough that they come off the perches at full droop (e.g., when the car is on jack stands) so you have to take care putting the car back on the ground. You can (and I did) zip-tie the springs to the upper perch, through the holes provided for that purpose. But it is not a complete cure.

Nowadays, I'd give the cheapie ones some very serious consideration...

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post Jun 23 2006, 04:25 PM
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or we could all just engineer threaded body shocks and not have to get coilover sleeves (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

bilstein has some great racer shocks that are completely "racer rebuild"-able and sell bazillions of valving kits....
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post Jun 23 2006, 04:27 PM
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The reason I buy Eibach springs:

I *could* buy them in lower increments for fine tuning compared to the dirt track spring rates which would jump in 50lb increments. I also needed the option of spring height. 8inch/10inch/12inch. Some of the others in the past didnt have many options.

I went with Ground Control components because they support OUR industry (AutoX+Road racing) I use Coleman for other products and have since 1993. I like their brake rotors and hats (this is what they are known)

I also get what I pay for. The quality of the Ground Control stuff (that everyone can make) is FAR better than the cheap appearing, cheaply made cast stuff that Coleman sells. I have also noticed the Coleman threaded pieces have a lot of "slack" in them compared to the more precise GC units.

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post Jun 23 2006, 04:30 PM
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do ground control setups use a double nut approach to locking the perch? or do they do a set screw like coleman?

i somewhat agree with brad, the sleeves coleman makes are nice. the perch ring/nut does have a little slack. each perch is sold in 2.04 and 2.08 ID setups... they also sell a little adapter ring to take up any slack between the body and the sleeve....

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post Jun 23 2006, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 23 2006, 01:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Jun 23 2006, 01:20 PM) *

Hypercoils run about 60 per pair. they go in 5lb increments. See paragon-products.com.

The coleman option looks like a great bang for the buck


no way they are 60 a pair... they are 60 each....



Well, I must have received a 1/2 price discount. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jun 23 2006, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Jun 23 2006, 03:50 PM) *

QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 23 2006, 01:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Jun 23 2006, 01:20 PM) *

Hypercoils run about 60 per pair. they go in 5lb increments. See paragon-products.com.

The coleman option looks like a great bang for the buck


no way they are 60 a pair... they are 60 each....



Well, I must have received a 1/2 price discount. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


that would be killer if you did....
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post Jun 23 2006, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 23 2006, 03:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Jun 23 2006, 03:50 PM) *

QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 23 2006, 01:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Travis Neff @ Jun 23 2006, 01:20 PM) *

Hypercoils run about 60 per pair. they go in 5lb increments. See paragon-products.com.

The coleman option looks like a great bang for the buck


no way they are 60 a pair... they are 60 each....



Well, I must have received a 1/2 price discount. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


that would be killer if you did....


I am talking about the springs, not the perch kit - and yes 60-65$ bux from paragon
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post Jun 23 2006, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Jun 23 2006, 03:56 PM) *

look at the pics i posted, and in my blog.
they sit on a circlip (on koni's and bilsteins)

37 each side + 2 "adapter rings" (search it at coleman, 5 bucks each) + springs. DONE


Thanks. .
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post Jun 24 2006, 02:05 AM
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so the coleman parts are cast and the ground control kits have machined t6 or something similar?
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post Jun 24 2006, 02:36 AM
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The springs are typically 50-60 a piece.
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