Battery tray/support install - Screws, Rivets or Welding? |
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Battery tray/support install - Screws, Rivets or Welding? |
JeffBowlsby |
Jul 13 2006, 01:29 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,507 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
So I was looking at this photo and thinking to myself...is it really dumb idea or is it the perfect solution, to install a battery support and tray with sheet metal screws or rivets? Stainless steel fasteners obviously.
I figure that not only does it save me the trouble of welding, it would be possible to prepaint the parts completely before install for better corrosion protection and they would be removable for future maintenance if necssary. I am certain that properly sized rivets or screws would be strong enough. Anyone used screws or rivets on this before? Attached image(s) |
Brad Roberts |
Jul 13 2006, 01:39 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Weld. All the rest will come out with vibration.
Did you buy a badge? B |
Brad Roberts |
Jul 13 2006, 01:41 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
The tray to the wall could be bolted, but the lower portion would have to go into the fram rail. This is were the real support begins. You would have to nutsert the frame rail in 6 spots.
Weld it. It lasted for at least 25+ years the first time? B |
SirAndy |
Jul 13 2006, 01:45 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Weld (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) if you're concerned about the welds rusting, weld the bottom part first, then spray some metal ready + primer + real paint, then weld the top part. you can primer that beforehand as well. even welded on, the top part has enough flex so that you can lift it up to paint the underside ... i did mine 3 years ago, no rust on it at all, and the car is parked outside with no rain tray ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Andy |
914werke |
Jul 13 2006, 01:49 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,062 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Tried the rivits .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) Brads rights held doe a yr or two but eventually vibration took its toll.
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MartyYeoman |
Jul 13 2006, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,519 Joined: 19-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 839 Region Association: Northern California |
My tray is screwed to an angle that is in turn screwed to the wall.
The tray has a support structure that rests on the crurved surface below. The lower contact points are rubber snubbed. I've had this setup for about five years now and never had any problems with unexpected detachments. It's nice to have it removable and maintainable. |
watsonrx13 |
Jul 13 2006, 02:28 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Plant City, FL Member No.: 312 Region Association: South East States |
Weld it.... If it was good enough for the factory, it's good enough for me.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif)
-- Rob |
bernbomb914 |
Jul 13 2006, 02:56 PM
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one of the oldest Farts on this board Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,873 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 36 |
Weld it mine was loose when I got home from portland and might be the reason it did not run good.
Bernie |
GWN7 |
Jul 13 2006, 03:20 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
The only way I can think of mounting it to be removable is to weld studs in and then nut and lockwashers to hold it in place. Easier to do what everyone above has said (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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McMark |
Jul 13 2006, 03:39 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Bruce. If you want to make it removable I would weld studs/nuts to the chassis so that it could be bolted into place with blue locktite.
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reverie |
Jul 13 2006, 06:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 783 Joined: 14-March 03 Member No.: 427 Region Association: None |
Just make sure that it's welded at the right height. A local shop recently welded mine ~1" too high (which meant the engine lid couldn't be closed due to the rain tray), so the whole battery tray and support had to come out again and be re-welded.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 13 2006, 06:36 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Just make sure that it's welded at the right height. A local shop recently welded mine ~1" too high (which meant the engine lid couldn't be closed due to the rain tray), so the whole battery tray and support had to come out again and be re-welded. It's a bit difficult to understand how that could be done, what with the parts fitting right into place and all ................... The Cap'n |
Brad Roberts |
Jul 13 2006, 06:38 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
That is wierd. The wall has a HUMP in it just for the tray to weld too. I have NO idea how they could have messed that up?? WTF??
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McMark |
Jul 13 2006, 06:58 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I know my new marketing push! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Original Customs - Where we weld in your battery tray right. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif) |
WildBill |
Jul 13 2006, 07:38 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 6-July 06 From: Palouse, WA Member No.: 6,391 |
Not really what you asked but I would move it to the front trunk. Helps with handling/rust and you could always weld the tray in and move it later to make it look "correct".
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JeffBowlsby |
Jul 13 2006, 08:17 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,507 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Did you buy a badge? Naw...I am waiting for the LE edition.... Welding it is, thanks for the insight. I hoped someone had tried to rivet/screw it before, glad I asked. Mark, you need to open a south bay shop so I can hire you to weld in my tray... Hey thats it Mark...you doanneed no stinkin brickNmortar shop...do mobile 914 work...your shop truck could be a 914 modified for hauling parts/toolz... |
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