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need a "cat"...for the six, gotta get immisions down |
pete-stevers |
Jul 21 2006, 09:36 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
has any one ever built a muffler with a cat for a six???
i need one, that fits on the six headers.... does anyone make one or can anyone make a one off....??? need it soon..... |
GeorgeRud |
Jul 21 2006, 10:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I've never done it, but it seems that you could weld a flange just past the point where the three tubes come together on each header/heat exchanger and then bolt on a small converter on each side before the muffler. Certainly should help a lot with the emissions, but I've never seen one done.
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Qarl |
Jul 21 2006, 10:14 PM
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Shriveled member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,233 Joined: 8-February 03 From: Florida Member No.: 271 Region Association: None |
QUOTE has any one ever built a muffler with a cat for a six??? I'm not sure how it would help with emissions... but what about this version? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) Attached image(s) |
pete-stevers |
Jul 22 2006, 12:27 AM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
meow!!!!
nice wittle puddy tat.... |
pete-stevers |
Jul 22 2006, 12:33 AM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
i was thinking of running two pipes off th e headers one longer and joining them togather and running them both into a cat.....and into a muffler or silencer of sorts....and take it off after the test is done.....it jsut needs drop hydro carbons and bad stuff for the test......afterwards....back to the regular muffler....
ultimately emissions is only interested in making the car perform as it was new....a 2.0 four......the 3.0 may be more eficeint but it is smoking a tad.....so it will be a hard pass, unless i get creative...... |
cardiaceagle |
Jul 22 2006, 12:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 11-July 04 From: British Columbia Member No.: 2,335 |
always wondered what aircare whould do with a 6 convertion...
so it just has to meet the original specs... my 1.7 always passed with flying colors,buy the bar is not set to high... regards |
GWN7 |
Jul 22 2006, 08:23 AM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Do what GM did in the 70's to pass smog...pump fresh air into the exaust. Drill some holes in the exaust and add pipe attachments. Hook up 12V air pumps till it passes...........be carefull that you don't push too much air thru or it will whistle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Cap'n Krusty |
Jul 22 2006, 09:32 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Buy one of those Bursch systems with 3 small mufflers. Remove one muffler, install the catalyst. You need a muffler after the cat to provide some backpressure. The Cap'n
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Joe Bob |
Jul 22 2006, 09:35 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
I have.....one version used two sport cats. My next version used a larger cat with a single outlet.
I have the two sport ones sitting up in the garage. You can have them for the shipping. They are about 2/3 the size of below.....worked fine for CA emissions on my 3.6. Attached image(s) |
Joe Bob |
Jul 22 2006, 09:43 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
BTW....cats also quiet down an exhaust. You can get away with a less restrictive muffler with inline cats making up the difference.
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pete-stevers |
Jul 22 2006, 02:37 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
wow! thanks mike.......
does it fit on a set of six headers? for the life of me i can't rember who i bought them from, msds rings a bell. can you post more pics of it??? or pm me details.... |
pete-stevers |
Jul 22 2006, 02:41 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
i have got a bit of sorting to do....
one vaccum problem with the advance.... and i will lean it out for testing plus a few litres of methyl hydrate.....helps a bit to.... i will get all this sorted first for a basline....and use a cat if nessary lastly.... |
Joe Bob |
Jul 22 2006, 02:52 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
2.5 inch OD pipe...
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pete-stevers |
Jul 22 2006, 06:32 PM
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saved from fire! Group: Members Posts: 2,641 Joined: 10-October 04 From: Abbotsford,BC, Canada Member No.: 2,914 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
so i could just weld flanges on ....bolt straigt on , like a set of megaphones.....
i think that will work great!!.... |
Joe Bob |
Jul 22 2006, 06:34 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
"I" would bolt them right off the header flanges and put a glass pack after that and then bolt them to the hanger and add tips...you could also add some supertrapp end caps....
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Joe Bob |
Jul 23 2006, 05:37 PM
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Look what "I" found.....
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drive-ability |
Jul 23 2006, 05:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
i have got a bit of sorting to do.... one vaccum problem with the advance.... and i will lean it out for testing plus a few litres of methyl hydrate.....helps a bit to.... i will get all this sorted first for a basline....and use a cat if nessary lastly.... I would ask what the emission numbers are? Have you had the car tested / sniffed? There is a formula of sorts depending on where your numbers are. If your HC is too high leaning out the mixture will make it go higher, if your NOX is the problem timing and a richer mixture will cool down the readings. Clearly a test to establish where you are would be a good start. I am sure shops do straight "tune up" mode tests for that reason. |
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