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Engine numbers, No Engine Number? |
bribar |
Jul 31 2006, 06:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 31-July 06 From: Chicago Member No.: 6,542 |
Hi, I am looking at purchasing a rust free 914 2.0. I have a 1961 356b and it needs some good company in the garage.
The car is in the next state and I checked it over very well last week. It looks real good, but I called the guy (owned the car for over 20 years) and he can't find the engine number just in front of the Oil Filler stamped in the case. The car has has had the engine rebuilt. His mechanic put webbers on many years ago when the FI became problematic. Why wouldn't there be an engine number on the case? Factory repplacement case? I have the vin. Is there a db that will indicate this number is in a "range" 2.0 liters manufactured back in the day? Would Signal Orange have come from the factory with a Brown interior? Thanks, Brian |
Brad Roberts |
Jul 31 2006, 06:11 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Yep. Replacement case (but why??)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) You've come to the right place. B |
G e o r g e |
Jul 31 2006, 06:14 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None |
nothing in the vin will tell you it's a 2 liter
how many studs on intake manifold 3 or 4? where are the spark plug holes on engine tin top or side? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
Brad Roberts |
Jul 31 2006, 06:22 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
QUOTE Would Signal Orange have come from the factory with a Brown interior? Yes. But typically they where 70-72 cars and not 73-74's. I suggest you make sure it is a 2.0. The number one mistake I see when people buy cars: Everyone is told they are buying a 2.0 because this is the main car that fetches the most money besides a 914/6. I have seen 2.0 cars passed down through 2-3 people before somebody points out that it is actually a 1.7 or a 1.8 (or a 1911 which some will call a 2.0) Pay attention to the heads. B |
davep |
Jul 31 2006, 07:44 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,144 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I have the database, but very rarely will there be a range of VIN"S that are known to be 2.0's. There are several hints that the engine was originally a 2.0: the tire rating decal on the evap tank over the gas tank shows HR tires and the emissions decal over the relay board in the engine compartment show a 120 cubic inch engine.
If the engine itself does not have the 3 studs on the head holding the intake runners, then it is not a 914 2.0 engine. |
914Sixer |
Jul 31 2006, 08:12 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,885 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Over the last 25 years I have come across 3 unstamped cases that were 2.0. I feel that they were replacement engines as Brad said. I have never seen an unstamped 1.7 or 1.8. That is not to say they did not make them.
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Al Meredith |
Jul 31 2006, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 960 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 3,061 |
I am working on a 1.8 now that has the SN on the case next to the flywheel. I also have a 912E which has a 2.0 with no SN on the case. The number is on the blower housing. I have had a factory rebuilt TY4 that had no SN . It has a VW with arrowes (recycled) and an EA for a 1.7, but no numbers after it.
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Jake Raby |
Jul 31 2006, 08:37 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
None of the 912E engines had engine numbers, out of hundreds I have never seen one. I have also ran across quite a few 76 model engines from original 914s that did not have a number either..
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type47 |
Jul 31 2006, 08:52 PM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
can't find the engine number in front of the oil filler because the number is back on the top of the case toward the flywheel and it's either a 1.7 or 1.8. listen to the suggestion about the number of intake studs on the heads (also decal, engine tin...)
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