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post Aug 3 2006, 01:52 PM
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Well, I won a PCA concours. My car would have gotten thrashed if I was around a bunch of real CWs, but I won. My car was the only 914 there and I took home the prize for best 914. I've got the certificate to prove it. What's to say that this guy didn't win under similar circumstances?
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post Aug 3 2006, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Aug 3 2006, 12:49 PM) *

if he didn't say concours, would you guys still be bashing it?


I wouldn't. The Cap'n
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:04 PM
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just curious. carry on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Aug 3 2006, 03:49 PM) *

if he didn't say concours, would you guys still be bashing it?



No not really... maybe picky on his choices of style things (ie wood dash etc)

But those are the things that we usually talk about.


This is an example of either misleading or an ignorant owner who *could* sucker someone else into thinking that this is a pristine CW of a car. When in fact it is just a "nice" example of a 914.


And Paul... as usual you are on the extreme. I do not think we bash EVERY 914 put up here. Generally we point out things that we like don't like or are wrong and give our very vocal opinion on them.

This one IMHO deserves it.


Oh and BTW... if this guy had a clue about this car or restoration in general he would have NEVER said it had a frame off restoration.
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:06 PM
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Doesnt seem like it would take alot to bring it back to original if thats what someone wanted to do. door panels, seats, dash trim and repainting some engine tin and rims. minor stuff.
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:07 PM
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Depending on the PCA Zone rules where entered, the guy could have easily won a concours if he was in the "Wash and Shine" category in which originality is not judged; all he needs is a very clean car (usually they don't judge the engine in Wash and Shine either). It is even possible he could win a local regional event in other than Wash and Shine, but definitely not a contender for "Full" or "Restored" categories at the national level! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Correction - I believe Full is not judged on originality now; a recent rule change this year. Deductions come in Restored if the car is less than 75% original and this car definitely is!
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:11 PM
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Well, since you guys are in the mood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

$25,000? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:17 PM
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Theres an nice original Laguna Blue 6 on there too. 1st time seen that color on one.
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:20 PM
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At least he didn't say it was bored 30 over (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Aug 3 2006, 04:11 PM) *

Well, since you guys are in the mood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

$25,000? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)



Not enough info there to bash. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Looks nice enough but 25 Grr is a little steep for a 1.8.

If he gets it though... I've got a restored 1.7 to sell. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Aug 3 2006, 01:11 PM) *

Well, since you guys are in the mood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

$25,000? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


$25K? whats that guy smoking? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:29 PM
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i'm not sure what he's smoking, but i was about to run down to the local thrift shop, buy a bunch of old trohpies, throw them in my trunk, snap a picture, and put a $20,000 sign on my front window. Of course, if you buy my car w/o the trophies, it's only half that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



Tom, I wish i had bought your yellow car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
coming to RRC?
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:31 PM
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Here I can help him, "Original unibody, 914 sports car winner for sale!"

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) From the body on, who the hell konws.
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Aug 3 2006, 04:11 PM) *

Well, since you guys are in the mood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

$25,000? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Well, at least he didn't say it's won a Con-Coors ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Aug 3 2006, 10:09 AM) *

We have a problem here with beating up on cars that are on the market. Doesn't really help anything.



It can help a buyer.

John

P.S. I do not agree with the practice, by the way....
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QUOTE(Sammy @ Aug 3 2006, 12:37 PM) *

What's a concourse? (old inside joke from rennlist) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)



I am not sure either, but they are always talking about 'em at the airport every time I go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 3 2006, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Aug 3 2006, 01:11 PM) *

Well, since you guys are in the mood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

$25,000? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Not too minty if the seal is hanging out on the door threshhold and there's overspray on the door seal...
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post Aug 3 2006, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Aug 3 2006, 11:30 AM) *
... Not to mention the way the TTS is mounted (might even be the wrong one!), ... the plugged ports on the air cleaner and the plenum... and the likely to be missing OE emissions equipment.


Some of those, I think, are correct. The plugged port on the air cleaner, at least, is stock for late cars without the EGR--and many late cars came without smog pumps, cats, or EGRs. (IIRC, CA and MA were the only two states to have some or all of that on 914s.)

And I couldn't even see enough of the TTS to figure how it's mounted...

But "concours-winning condition"? That's not how I would describe this car.

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post Aug 3 2006, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Aug 3 2006, 01:11 PM) *

Well, since you guys are in the mood (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

$25,000? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! He's freekin nuts!
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post Aug 3 2006, 04:25 PM
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Frame off restoration is being used more loosely than the concours thing. It may be concours, but its never been off its frame, cause it has no frame. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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