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| SLITS |
 Aug 4 2006, 11:52 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!"  Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None   |
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Engine is a '73.5 2.4L going into a conversion. The question is the electrical hookup. Did Porsche eliminate the 3 prong alternator plug on this engine and run everything thru the 14 pin engine harness connector? I've looked and looked and cannot find the alternator connector on the engine harness. The '77 CIS harness I have has the plug near the CDI connector. It is being put into a '70 914/4 chassis. I have the original relay board and a 914/6 relay board. I'm sick of staring (with a magnifying glass) at three different wiring diagrams (914/4, 914/6 & 911 CIS). Aaaaaarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh!!!!! |
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| dimitri |
Aug 4 2006, 12:03 PM
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dimitri Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 16-March 05 From: Cupertino,CA Member No.: 3,769 |
This engine should have the wiring for the regulator, unless the alternator was replaced with a much newer one, which have an internal regulator. Either way
wiring does not goe thru engine wiring multipin connector. Make sure the alternator wires are attached on the back. Dimitri |
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| SLITS |
Aug 4 2006, 01:04 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Thanks, looks like I'm gonna drop the engine and investigate. Need to determine if alt is internally regulated.
Conversions are a pain in the ass!!!! |
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| Root_Werks |
Aug 4 2006, 01:08 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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QUOTE(dimitri @ Aug 4 2006, 11:03 AM)  This engine should have the wiring for the regulator, unless the alternator was replaced with a much newer one, which have an internal regulator. Either way wiring does not goe thru engine wiring multipin connector. Make sure the alternator wires are attached on the back. Dimitri (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Either way, you should have a harnes for the alt. |
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| TimT |
Aug 4 2006, 02:23 PM
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retired Group: Members Posts: 4,033 Joined: 18-February 03 From: Wantagh, NY Member No.: 313 |
If the alternator has an external voltage regulator, there is a seperate harness for the alternator. If it is internallly regulated its incorporated into the engine harness.
could be a transition year, or a DAPO situation |
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| lapuwali |
Aug 4 2006, 02:31 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
I don't believe internally regulated alternators were fitted until the SC or even later. Certainly, the 2.7s I've seen had an external regulator. I'm in the middle of fitting a later internally regulated alternator to a '75 2.7. It's not difficult to do, you just have to notch the cone that bolts onto the end of the alternator, or swap it out for a later cone.
The harness for the alternator was also part of the main engine harness for the '75, btw. I don't remember now if there was a three-prong connector on it or not, but I can check when I get home. |
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| SLITS |
Aug 4 2006, 03:07 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Thanks for the replies.....it's just driving me nutz. I don't know if the DAPO changed to internally regulated or not. The engine harness doesn't show any signs of being modified.
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| lapuwali |
Aug 4 2006, 03:20 PM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
Take off the fan shroud and feel the bottom of the alternator "cone". If it's smooth, then it's likely externally regulated. If there's a big blocky thing there, that's the regulator, and it's internal.
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| SLITS |
Aug 5 2006, 08:17 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
Found the Tech Bulletin on The Bird for replacing External with Internal ('74 - '83 911T). Change was effective with the 82 model year. Couple of parts, clip one wire & remove the alt harness at the board, plug back in. I have my fingers crossed, but it still requires checking the cone of the alt to be sure. If the retro fit is done to an earlier car / engine, it requires the 930 fan housing
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| lapuwali |
Aug 5 2006, 08:35 AM
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Not another one! Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743 |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Aug 5 2006, 07:17 AM) Found the Tech Bulletin on The Bird for replacing External with Internal ('74 - '83 911T). Change was effective with the 82 model year. Couple of parts, clip one wire & remove the alt harness at the board, plug back in. I have my fingers crossed, but it still requires checking the cone of the alt to be sure. If the retro fit is done to an earlier car / engine, it requires the 930 fan housing Or you just take a grinder to your fan housing to make the necessary clearance. |
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