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> Hey Guys... What do we know about the "915" 914, With the prototype diesel engine?
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post Aug 5 2006, 09:12 AM
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Just wondering about diesel type fours in general and remembered reading about the "915" prototype diesel 914 in RMR PCA. Does anyone know anything about it? Or any other type iv diesel engines?
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post Aug 5 2006, 09:25 AM
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I never heard a thing about it in thirty years. Doubt that a type 4 could be built as a diesel.
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post Aug 5 2006, 09:32 AM
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Did you by any chance hear about it in April? The first day of April specifically... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 5 2006, 09:38 AM
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a guy in Idaho has a rabbit turbo diesel engine in his 914,
I didnt look to close, cause I didnt want to get diesel on me ,
53mpg he said.
funny when he took off seeing the black plume out the exhaust.
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post Aug 5 2006, 09:38 AM
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No. They made diesel vanagons. I just don't know the years. I found a diesel type 4 for sale in G.B.

The 914 diesel is legendary like the Audi 945. The 944s with the audi gt 5 cylinder.

Back on topic. It was a factory prototype. They did two or three of 'em. It was cool. Etcetera.
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post Aug 5 2006, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(alpha434 @ Aug 5 2006, 08:38 AM) *

No. They made diesel vanagons. I just don't know the years. I found a diesel type 4 for sale in G.B.

The 914 diesel is legendary like the Audi 945. The 944s with the audi gt 5 cylinder.

Back on topic. It was a factory prototype. They did two or three of 'em. It was cool. Etcetera.

The Vanagon diesel was an inline 4, and awsomely underpowered. You have documentation on the "945" and the "factory prototype" diesel 914? The first VW diesels appeared years later. The Cap'n
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post Aug 5 2006, 09:48 AM
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Both were features in several issues of the Rocky Mountain Region PCA magazine. The 945 is also mentioned in Excellence. And many other sources.
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post Aug 5 2006, 10:54 AM
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1972 VW Type 4 - Diesel Injection Engine: Chassis:
VW Diesel Inj. Hose

Found a store that sells parts for it.
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post Aug 5 2006, 11:09 AM
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I'm kind of skeptical but everyone loves a good show. Where is Troy? Come on Messix. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)

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post Aug 5 2006, 11:22 AM
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I've been driving and working on 914s for 28 years and I have never heard about a diesel type, 4, much less one installed in a 914.
If it existed it is one of the best kept secrets ever.
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post Aug 5 2006, 11:26 AM
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i don't know type 4's well enough to really rail on him about this one. i'd be talking out my (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) just as bad as he is.

it just doesnt seem likely that that 901 tranny would be able to live behind even a small smoker with the low end torque that they make. and with the vw and p car expertice that is represented here idoubt that alpy has discovered something new.

all though what about the elusive grasshopper le car?
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post Aug 5 2006, 12:25 PM
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It's not something new. Porsche expiremented with Diesel power (among everything else). And type 4 diesels were common in their industrial versions. Is there anyone who gets and saves Panorama? It's in there within the last year. The article goes on about how some elderly woman owned one.
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I doubt you could get enough compression with a type IV... for the same reason you can't run high-boost turbos on them - it's hard to get a tight enough seal between the heads and the cylinders.....

Compression ratio on a diesel runs between 14:1 and 25:1
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post Aug 5 2006, 12:39 PM
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Weld the cylinders to the heads. Come on. Give me a hard one.
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post Aug 5 2006, 12:45 PM
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Weld the cylinders to the heads. Come on. Give me a hard one.


well this is to easy......... thats what your sister is for!

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post Aug 5 2006, 12:50 PM
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Messix. Start a new thread for screwing around in the sandbox. You can make as much fun as me at you want there.

Besides. You WILL still own a teener in 6 years. Then it's open season.
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post Aug 5 2006, 12:57 PM
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Messix. Start a new thread for screwing around in the sandbox. You can make as much fun as me at you want there.

Besides. You WILL still own a teener in 6 years. Then it's open season.


What happens in six years?
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post Aug 5 2006, 12:58 PM
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whats six years got to do with it?

scan the articals and come up with the documentation. shouldn't be so hard if you've already seen it.

if a bunch of old farts that have been around these cars since they where sold new and have had no knowledge of this revelation of old factory prototypes, you must be one hell of a geraldo revera!
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post Aug 5 2006, 01:03 PM
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Welding cast iron cylinders, or even "Nikies", is a challenge for even the best of welders ....................... Personally, I doubt the existence of even an experimental T4 or 914 at the factory level. Porsche apparently had a hand in the MB 5 cylinder diesels, and bought the company that made the tractors that were marketed as Porsche vehicles. Might look to "Excellence was Expected" for the answer. The author enjoyed unprecedented access to company archives.

"Show me." The Cap'n
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post Aug 5 2006, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(alpha434 @ Aug 5 2006, 11:50 AM) *

Messix. Start a new thread for screwing around in the sandbox. You can make as much fun as me at you want there.
Besides. You WILL still own a teener in 6 years. Then it's open season.


you are doing a pretty good job yourself right here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) hahahaha
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