Shocks/ street koni/red orange in color, Looking for the softest ride & strut name |
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Shocks/ street koni/red orange in color, Looking for the softest ride & strut name |
drive-ability |
Aug 5 2006, 09:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
I have red / orange koni's set on full SOFT, with stock TBs. Its a five bolt 911 strut car with a V8 and a 930 transmission. I just sold a set of Bilstein shocks because they wouldn't fit my front struts. I have the type that has a cap with threads on the outside of the strut. What are the softest valved shocks for a set up like mine, and what is the name used to describe my front struts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/help.gif)
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 5 2006, 10:31 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
im not sure what year your suspension is...
PLEASE do not tell me they are "hydro-pneumatics" (some wierd shock offered on early 911's) |
Allan |
Aug 5 2006, 10:42 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
PLEASE do not tell me they are "hydro-pneumatics" (some wierd shock offered on early 911's) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Are you sure the threads are on the outside of the struts? IIRC there was only a couple of cars that had that and they were earlier that ours.. Could be wrong (Probably am). |
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Aug 5 2006, 10:52 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
Well,
The Koni's fit fine, the strut has a "Cap" not unlike a pluming fitting looks like if you were to cap off a pipe. The "Cap" has a hole in the center just the right size for the shock piston. My old Bilstein shocks had a threaded insert which used threads inside the strut, so that wouldn't work. The threads are on the outside of the strut, that's for sure. |
Mueller |
Aug 5 2006, 11:40 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None |
Koni Yellows set on full soft....
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 6 2006, 11:17 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
OK....
strut housings. 3 (4 really) kinds of housings. A ) Boge. Black. 3" or 3.5" Spacing. Early vs Late respectively. available in both wedge pin, and thru bolt style ball joints. Strut inserts available are, boge, bilstein, koni, mulholland, Kyb, and more.... (MOST COMMON HOUSING) B ) Bilstein. Green. 3" or 3.5" Spacing. ONLY inserts that fit are Bilsteins DESIGNED for bilstein HOUSINGS. Sport or HD available. C) Koni housing - 3.5" only i believe. both early and late ball joint styles. only inserts that fit are KONI for KONI housings..... what color are yours? |
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Aug 6 2006, 11:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
OK.... strut housings. 3 (4 really) kinds of housings. A ) Boge. Black. 3" or 3.5" Spacing. Early vs Late respectively. available in both wedge pin, and thru bolt style ball joints. Strut inserts available are, boge, bilstein, koni, mulholland, Kyb, and more.... (MOST COMMON HOUSING) B ) Bilstein. Green. 3" or 3.5" Spacing. ONLY inserts that fit are Bilsteins DESIGNED for bilstein HOUSINGS. Sport or HD available. C) Koni housing - 3.5" only i believe. both early and late ball joint styles. only inserts that fit are KONI for KONI housings..... what color are yours? Aaron, The color of the housing is black, the ball joints are held in via wedge pin. Aaron, I have red/orange koni shocks, they would be considered Street correct and would be softer than the koni yellow? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 6 2006, 11:30 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
so you have black boge housings.
Koni reds are adjustable. the difference between a red and a yellow, is the amount of stiffness that can be dialed in. i believe they start at the same "reaaally soft" level. yellows can be dialed up waaay stiffer. Set them on full soft and you are good to go. what year are these struts off of? we need to know this... |
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Aug 6 2006, 11:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
so you have black boge housings. Koni reds are adjustable. the difference between a red and a yellow, is the amount of stiffness that can be dialed in. i believe they start at the same "reaaally soft" level. yellows can be dialed up waaay stiffer. Set them on full soft and you are good to go. what year are these struts off of? we need to know this... I don't know what year the struts are, The parts for the conversion were assembled in 2000 so I think the struts are in that area of age. They were first installed by me and looked new in the last 2 years. They are adjustable and on the softest setting. |
Aaron Cox |
Aug 6 2006, 11:54 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
nothing after 1989 911 suspension parts do not bolt in....
snap a pic dude. we are guessing in the dark.... |
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Aug 6 2006, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
nothing after 1989 911 suspension parts do not bolt in.... snap a pic dude. we are guessing in the dark.... (IMG:http://members.cox.net/stdotjohn/Good%20Day%20to%20go%20005.jpg600.jpg) |
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Aug 6 2006, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
I was thinking the picture would help you guys help me identify the strut housing design. Its a 5 lug 911 with threads on the outside of the housing not inside like the Borg style
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sixnotfour |
Aug 6 2006, 08:01 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,430 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
my 87 Carrera has the Boge strut you describe, threaded outside housing.
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Aaron Cox |
Aug 6 2006, 08:15 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
those are A calipers.... so 3.5" spacing.
jeff seems to have hit the nail on the head..... so order inserts for 87 carerra struts (wont be valved for a 914 tho) |
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Aug 6 2006, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
Guys thank you so much for the help, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) I have Koni's on the car now and since it valved for a different car the rougher ride is now understood. Yes I like to have softer ride than almost everybody on this site I guess my Towncar has just spoiled me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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