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356 "Field" Find, Is it a good deal?? |
URY914 |
Aug 8 2006, 08:26 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,983 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
This one is close to me and has been on Samba for some time now. You could buy a fleet of 914's for what these will cost you to properly restore.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=306776 |
grasshopper |
Aug 8 2006, 08:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Well.....I can see why. I guess you guys have talked me out of another one... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) First and last 356...
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Joe Bob |
Aug 8 2006, 08:43 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Whoever thinks that 356 above is gonna be restored is nuttier than batshit. They bought a VIN #......
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bondo |
Aug 8 2006, 08:47 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
I'd say if YOU really want a 356, buy it and fix it in whatever way YOU want. Enjoy having a 356, and don't ever worry about not having an english wheel. If your plan is to turn a profit, look it over carefully. If it'll stand up under its own weight, buy it, and get it out of the field and onto some good tires. Clean it up the best you can, but DO NOT fix it. Sell it at that point, and you'll probably get your best $ for your effort.
I've bought and sold many cars. The ones I made money on I sold shortly after getting cleaned up. The ones I lost money on are the ones I worked hardest on. Here's an example: MGB. I bought that car for $850. I got it running, but it had a high rpm rod knock. As a running and driving MGB, I probably could have doubled my money even with the rod knock. But no, I rebuilt the engine, replaced all the rubber, painted it, and now I can't get anywhere near what I have in it. I did get a good 7 years of use out of it, but was it really worth it? My mistake was that I went into it because I really wanted it, and never planned to sell it. I was building MY mgb. Then I got into 914s and changed my mind. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) So there you have it. I say look deep inside yourself, and make that choice... 356 later, or profit now. You can always buy it and postpone that decision, but don't forget to make that decision before you get too deep. |
SGB |
Aug 8 2006, 08:56 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
wow Royce, what a beauty! Steel bumpers, wires, good top... Hold out fo a decent price. Someone who apppreciates it will come along. Steele bumper Bs are going up fast in price, following the path of the bug-eye. That car is only a few years away from major vaue.
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grasshopper |
Aug 8 2006, 09:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
Well..I really need some money for the SIX, which now looks like it will have to be freshend up...E Cams, S Pistons...other stuff too...but I'm keeping that a secret. So I guess I will buy it, clean up the interior wash it, buy some tires, and resell the thing.... Thanks guys!
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bondo |
Aug 8 2006, 09:16 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
wow Royce, what a beauty! Steel bumpers, wires, good top... Hold out fo a decent price. Someone who apppreciates it will come along. Steele bumper Bs are going up fast in price, following the path of the bug-eye. That car is only a few years away from major vaue. I wish I could keep it forever. But I can only have so many cars. I've got to cash out now, financially it's my only option. Well not quite only... it's either give up the MG, or give up the V8 914 project.. what would you choose? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
G e o r g e |
Aug 8 2006, 09:21 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None |
Well..I really need some money for the SIX, which now looks like it will have to be freshend up...E Cams, S Pistons...other stuff too...but I'm keeping that a secret. So I guess I will buy it, clean up the interior wash it, buy some tires, and resell the thing.... Thanks guys! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) good plan |
GWN7 |
Aug 8 2006, 09:30 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
At $1,800 it sounds like a deal. If the car is fairly compleat as you say, I'd buy it and put it in the shed. If you decide that you need the $$ for the six you probably could double that if you cleaned it up and put it on Ebay....
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messix |
Aug 8 2006, 09:37 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
go ahead and buy it!
all you nay say'ers back off and let this kid learn at the resto shop, he'll be learning skills and this car would be great for him to learn on. it's only metal for gods sake, if he screws something up on his first try it can always be redone later when he has mastered the skills. don't shoot down a possable great craftsman earaly because he doesn't yet have the skills. his family is supportive in a way that is beyond compare. |
bondo |
Aug 8 2006, 09:49 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
go ahead and buy it! all you nay say'ers back off and let this kid learn at the resto shop, he'll be learning skills and this car would be great for him to learn on. it's only metal for gods sake, if he screws something up on his first try it can always be redone later when he has mastered the skills. don't shoot down a possable great craftsman earaly because he doesn't yet have the skills. his family is supportive in a way that is beyond compare. Oh, he's got skills. I started really working on cars probably about when he did (early teens). From what I've seen posted here, I'd say we're about even now. I'm 31... how old are you now grasshopper? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Keep up that pace and by the time you're my age you'll be building custom cars from scratch. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Boojum |
Aug 8 2006, 09:54 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 31-July 06 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 6,550 |
At $1,800 it sounds like a deal. If the car is fairly compleat as you say, I'd buy it and put it in the shed. If you decide that you need the $$ for the six you probably could double that if you cleaned it up and put it on Ebay.... No joke. At $1800 that's like free money. It's like buying a house off a 90 year old grandma for $100,000 because you know it'll go for $300,000 with a little sprucing up... And you don't even have to evict a nice grandma (a few mice on the other hand..) |
rick 918-S |
Aug 9 2006, 12:03 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,478 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
I sold a 1958 sunroof for 7500.00 and it needed everthing. Buy it. If you decide to repair it, cool. If you decide to flip it, you'll make money. Don't start bringing people out there you'll spook the seller. I'm not telling you to steal it. The seller set the price. I'm telling you to take the deal and make some money.
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SirAndy |
Aug 9 2006, 12:06 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,671 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
I'd go down and give them the $1800 cash asap and sort out the details later. Worst case scenario, you part it out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
Jake Raby |
Aug 9 2006, 05:09 AM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
I have been looking for a "Rough" 356 to use for mock up purposes for a Turbo system and maybe to make an "Outlaw" out of... If you don't want it let me know..
356s are about the most expensive car to restore. I have supplied engines for customers spending 40K+ on the resto, NOT including the engine!! |
davep |
Aug 9 2006, 05:30 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,151 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
It MAY be a good deal at that price. You may be able to flip it for a profit.
To give you an idea about restoring a 356, try replacing a door. Find a good door of the proper style and restore it. Then mount the door on the body and align properly, some trimming of the door may be necessary. Lead the door to the body (as in body filler lead metal). Cut the door gap with a hot knife. Yep, the factory custom cut each door to the body, and no two doors are the same. I remember cutting up a cab about 20 years ago using only a screwdriver. Had a bunch of coupes and a pair of Conv D's as well. I'm much happier with my 914's thanks. The 914 has but one hellhole, the 356 is a hellhole it seems. Good luck with the project. |
grasshopper |
Aug 9 2006, 06:28 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,613 Joined: 10-December 04 From: Valdosta, GA Member No.: 3,258 Region Association: None |
Dang it! Now I dont know what to do...Yeah, I know "buy it!" but what then....I think I'll just leave it in a storage garage for about ten years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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nomore9one4 |
Aug 9 2006, 06:43 AM
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Member of the Eastcoast Thread Killers Club Group: Members Posts: 2,666 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Pittsburgh,Pa.15237 Member No.: 14 Region Association: None |
I say buy it! Sit on it awhile and see if it feels right. If not sell it and put a few dollars into your pocket. It is a simple decision,unless you are taking food off your table to pay for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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drewvw |
Aug 9 2006, 07:12 AM
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new england car guy Group: Members Posts: 1,631 Joined: 24-February 06 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 5,630 Region Association: North East States |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) even if its only semi solid you should definitely buy it, its worth it. You have a compound(s) to stash it so you can take your time on it or sell it later on.
when I was 20, i came across a "free" 356 that some guy had and I was all jacked up to get it and restore it myself. It was trashed but I had stars in my eyes. I quickly learned that even if you do all the work its still going to cost a fortune, esp if it doesnt have an engine (does it...might have missed that part) get us some pics!!! I do know a guy thats sitting on a 64 356...he refuses to sell it to me, tries to pawn off some crappy TR-7s to change the subject. time to ask him again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
URY914 |
Aug 9 2006, 07:19 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,983 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
A "barn" find is better than a "field" find.
And when the barn is climate controlled and dust free, al the better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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