Parade AX course, Few cones, lots of track Options

[DNHunt]

For what it's worth here is the Parade course. THere were not a lot of gates or cones and plenty of time on the track at Portland. I worked 2 stints as a corner worker for the stock classes. Turn 6 was very hard for people. I didn't count but, my guess is there were 12 off's there.

I wish I was running. It looks like a lot of fun. I certainly wasn't impressed with the driving. Lots of odd lines and people braking way early. I'm sure they were intimidated. There was plenty of speed in some of the straights. Dave Darling was there and he had a good pull in 3rd before downshifting for the Chicago box.

Not a lot of 914s although there should be a fair number today.

Sorry no pics

Dave

[Randal]

For what it's worth here is the Parade course. THere were not a lot of gates or cones and plenty of time on the track at Portland. I worked 2 stints as a corner worker for the stock classes. Turn 6 was very hard for people. I didn't count but, my guess is there were 12 off's there.

I wish I was running. It looks like a lot of fun. I certainly wasn't impressed with the driving. Lots of odd lines and people braking way early. I'm sure they were intimidated. There was plenty of speed in some of the straights. Dave Darling was there and he had a good pull in 3rd before downshifting for the Chicago box.

Not a lot of 914s although there should be a fair number today.

Sorry no pics

Dave

I can tell the exact number of turns, but it looks like a 911 course to me. Was it as open as it looked?

[DNHunt]

Yep

[J P Stein]

The highest "911" was a GT3 in 3rd OA I think.
Tom Provosi was TTOD, followed by Leeds Gulick.

I looked like sumthin' that fell out of a tall cow's ass.....Brit fell from a shorter cow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pain30.gif)

[J P Stein]

For the time junkies off the top of my head:
914 class winners that I know of.
Provasi @ 54 & change M5
Gulick @ 55 M4
Nielsoney@ 59 M1

[Randal]

For the time junkies off the top of my head:
914 class winners that I know of.
Provasi @ 54 & change M5
Gulick @ 55 M4
Nielsoney@ 59 M1

It looked like a big time HP course. Bill's 911 would have done OK.

[nine14cats]

For the time junkies off the top of my head:
914 class winners that I know of.
Provasi @ 54 & change M5
Gulick @ 55 M4
Nielsoney@ 59 M1

JP,

What were the times that you and Britain put up?

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Bill P.

[Brad Roberts]

WHOA!

Was Steves car running bad?? or was the course too big for his setup??

Yeah..!! where did JP and Britain place?


B

[Rough_Rider]

It was a treat to watch the big guns in M classes duking it out. JP & Brit we're having difficulty getting clean runs looked like to much oversteer.

Course did favour HP however those turns are extremly tricky multi apex suckers. Plus we placed gates off racing line & in the case of festival turn completly off the course in run off area.
It should have been a smart drivers course. Wish i could've given it a go, instead i played starter & course control for 2 days. Good to put names to faces, I hope you al had some fun :-)

L8tr
Trev.

Ohh & there was a beauty of a Ruf Turbo 650hp that ever so nearly staked it backwards into the wall.. High pucker factor....

[Randal]

WHOA!

Was Steves car running bad?? or was the course too big for his setup??

Yeah..!! where did JP and Britain place?


B

Looking at the map... very few corners. In a drag race open type course, Tom P will have a huge advantage over Steve N, i.e., check it out - 04 seconds!!!!!.

And while a 650HP whatever (heavy car) will look interesting it will never corner with Tom P's big slicked fairly light weight 914. And Tom Provasi can drive, so tough combination to beat.

I would like to see the JP GROUP times.

[J P Stein]

JP,
What were the times that you and Britain put up? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Bill P.

I wuz hopin' for some slack (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ....oh well.

Near as I can figure, the rear tairs went tits up. They are bout 3 years old.
Big time Osteer.
Brit spun off twice & I missed 2nd gear twice and DNFed the only time I didn't....all in all, a shitty day...can't take the pressure I guess.
Brit had a 63 & I had a 66 on our last runs.

Gonna swap out the rears for Saturday's event & it soma' that tiar goop.

[grantsfo]

Tom did similar thing to our times on the big HP course that Trekkor recently designed at Marina. There were a couple of cars able to get within 5 seconds of him. His car definitely has more juice than Steve N or Andrew B on a course that is open and demands HP. Tom's AX driving seems to be better this year too. ...Just another one of those slow Nor Cal PCA guys.

[Brad Roberts]

He is amazing. He rarely shows up to the events (besides zone events). I rarely saw him at track events.. he has been doing this a LONG time. I watched him clean house at the Texas parade back in 04.

I ran across Larry Sharps old 914 "Automotion" AutoX car a few events back. Thought it looked familiar minus some graphics. Larry was SUPER fast in it.

Seat time seat time seat time.

You cannot beat NORCAL for seat time.



B

[J P Stein]

Looking at the map... very few corners. In a drag race open type course, Tom P will have a huge advantage over Steve N, i.e., check it out - 04 seconds!!!!!.

And while a 650HP whatever (heavy car) will look interesting it will never corner with Tom P's big slicked fairly light weight 914. And Tom Provasi can drive, so tough combination to beat.

I would like to see the JP GROUP times.

I'll see if I can get the M4 times.

There were 2 straights.....both up to 80ish.
Those long sweepers seemed like they went on forever (longer when you're fighting oversteer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) ). Granted, there were no intestinal tracts, but none of courses I've driven have them.

I haven't had a long look at the results, but IIRC, there were only 6-8 cars in the 50s. Since 3 of those (at least) were 914s, I think you could call it a 914 course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) All 3 of these are well set up & driven to win at AX. Randy Wells' early 9eleben was 2nd in M4.....57 flatish....another car that meets the criteria. The times reflect that.

Ya think this course was a problem? Wait till you see what the SD Region offers next year. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Steve_7x]

Results have been posted:

http://www.pca.org/parade/2006/results/AutoCrossResults.rtf

Course was way faster then what we see in Nor Cal... 3rd gear at or near redline from Turn 4 through the timing light. Shifted from 2nd to 3rd, then to 2nd, back to 3rd, then back to 2nd then 3rd from Turn 4 on out. My Car was getting light going around the corners... clearly my setings is made for quick courses with lots of changes - not for sustained high speed cornering.

I was pleased with my 59... but given another run I could have gotten into the 58's, but there was no way to keep up with 2.8liter and up crowd.

Glen Brooksby gave Tom Provasi a good run for the money, and only 0.3 seconds seperated the 2 of them. Leeds was another second further back.

By my count I believe I finished 7th overall... Not bad for 1st time on a track with the car and 2000cc's. It was fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

Steve

[grantsfo]

Results have been posted:

http://www.pca.org/parade/2006/results/AutoCrossResults.rtf

Course was way faster then what we see in Nor Cal... 3rd gear at or near redline from Turn 4 through the timing light. Shifted from 2nd to 3rd, then to 2nd, back to 3rd, then back to 2nd then 3rd from Turn 4 on out. My Car was getting light going around the corners... clearly my setings is made for quick courses with lots of changes - not for sustained high speed cornering.

I was pleased with my 59... but given another run I could have gotten into the 58's, but there was no way to keep up with 2.8liter and up crowd.

Glen Brooksby gave Tom Provasi a good run for the money, and only 0.3 seconds seperated the 2 of them. Leeds was another second further back.

By my count I believe I finished 7th overall... Not bad for 1st time on a track with the car and 2000cc's. It was fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

Steve

Great driving! Too bad it was such a fast course. Funny, while I drive a six now I'm always rooting for the fast T4 cars. I'm more of a lightweight T4 AX fan. Must come from my early days around Dwight Mitchell and his fast T4 AX car in the late Seventies.

Looks like Nor Cal regions had great representation. Even Dave Darling grabing 2nd in his class!

[drgchapman]

Steve, you kicked ass!
On saturday after you left, we had lunch and went back to finish. Your time held up for first place. Great fun watching you drive, what a maniac!

[Joe Ricard]

That would never make it past the Safety Stewards here. Maybe because we usually have a large number of novice "invinsible" Street touring guys fresh from last nights drift event.

[Randal]

Results have been posted:

http://www.pca.org/parade/2006/results/AutoCrossResults.rtf

Course was way faster then what we see in Nor Cal... 3rd gear at or near redline from Turn 4 through the timing light. Shifted from 2nd to 3rd, then to 2nd, back to 3rd, then back to 2nd then 3rd from Turn 4 on out. My Car was getting light going around the corners... clearly my setings is made for quick courses with lots of changes - not for sustained high speed cornering.

I was pleased with my 59... but given another run I could have gotten into the 58's, but there was no way to keep up with 2.8liter and up crowd.

Glen Brooksby gave Tom Provasi a good run for the money, and only 0.3 seconds seperated the 2 of them. Leeds was another second further back.

By my count I believe I finished 7th overall... Not bad for 1st time on a track with the car and 2000cc's. It was fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

Steve

Steve, remember how fast Glen's car was up at Reno? Matt L. sure can build motors and cars that handle. If I remember correctly you won that day, given a few more corners to equal the playing field.

I still think Bill's car (2200lbs) would have been competitive. But Tom Provasi does have all the bullets; at least for the time being. Light weight, huge motor and HP, HUGE SLICKS and driving ability.

[drgchapman]

But Tom Provasi does have all the bullets; at least for the time being. Light weight, huge motor and HP, HUGE SLICKS and driving ability.

And a really BIG WING. I looked at his car as he was pouring a bunch of race gas in it. Old worn out strut bushings on top in front, huge gas tank, tires were several years old. A lot of "old tech". Motor is a 3.5 liter built. Car could have been preped, I don't think he did much more than hook up the trailer and bring it up to Portland. Dude can drive, so can his wife.

I think there is some thing to the wing thing.

I can't remember, does Steve N's car have a wing? He drives like a bat out of hell as well, in fact so does his wife. Car sounds great..........for a 4 banger.