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Gas smell in interior |
type4org |
Aug 15 2006, 06:47 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
Ever since I had my '76 in the shop to replace all rubber fuel lines I have a gas smell in the car after it has been standing for a few hours. I don't smell anything outside, and just a little bit in the trunk - which could also be due to the old rubber lines for the evaporation circuit. At first I put it down to them spilling gas into odd places while removing/replacing the tank, but the smell isn't getting less.
Are there any "usual suspects" when it comes to gas smell in the interior after someone removed and reinstalled the gas tank? Are there any diagrams online that show how the lines are routed through the chassis tunnel? |
blitZ |
Aug 15 2006, 06:50 AM
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Beer please... Group: Members Posts: 2,223 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Lawrenceville, GA Member No.: 4,719 Region Association: South East States |
Check the gas fume canister and make sure the shop hooked it back up correctly. I would take it back to the shop immediately and make them fix it.
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type47 |
Aug 15 2006, 06:58 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
there are plastic lines that run up the tunnel, i'd get a flashlight and look for cracks in the plastic lines and get under the car and look for drips.
have you heard about the 914 gathering in northern VA on sept 16? |
type4org |
Aug 15 2006, 07:04 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
Check the gas fume canister and make sure the shop hooked it back up correctly. I would take it back to the shop immediately and make them fix it. I'm going to replace the lines to/from the canister over the next couple days. Those are the only old rubber lines left on the car. The shop told me to leave it overnight, they claimed they couldn't smell anything. This is my only car so I am trying to avoid that... |
type4org |
Aug 15 2006, 07:05 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
there are plastic lines that run up the tunnel, i'd get a flashlight and look for cracks in the plastic lines and get under the car and look for drips. have you heard about the 914 gathering in northern VA on sept 16? It's dry under the car, and I don't really smell anything around it. What access hole do I peer through to see the plastic lines? I know about the gathering, but won't be in town unfortunately. Otherwise I'd definitely go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
Tobra |
Aug 15 2006, 07:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634 |
I got this after I replaced the lines under the tank. I have not found any leaks, I think it is just the overflow vent thing on mine. I even got a new gas cap(same one as an old bug, go figure)
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maf914 |
Aug 15 2006, 07:27 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
I have a '76 and at one time had a problem with the fit of the plastic filler neck/vapor recovery tank to the gas tank. It is held by a series of small bolts with a rubber gasket between. If the gasket is not positioned properly and the bolts are not uniformly tightened gas can leak from this connection. The fit of the bolt heads relative to the filler neck is not perfect and some are difficult to put a socket on the head, so obtaining a uniform torque can be tricky. I suggest you check the tightness of the bolts in case the mechanic fiddled with them or they have worked loose over the years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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type4org |
Aug 15 2006, 07:34 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
I got this after I replaced the lines under the tank. I have not found any leaks, I think it is just the overflow vent thing on mine. I even got a new gas cap(same one as an old bug, go figure) Well, the one day I start asking questions is the one day I get into the car and smell nothing. Darn! Well, I will keep watching it and any further advice on where to look is welcome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
type4org |
Aug 15 2006, 07:35 AM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
I suggest you check the tightness of the bolts in case the mechanic fiddled with them or they have worked loose over the years. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Will do that as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
914nerd |
Aug 15 2006, 08:35 AM
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Who you callin' a "Member"? Group: Members Posts: 416 Joined: 18-July 06 From: Los Alamos, NM Member No.: 6,461 |
I'm having the same problem on my '75 1.8
What other problems could cause this to happen? Thanks, Charles |
Tobra |
Aug 15 2006, 08:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634 |
Holes in the hoses to the charcoal cannister(or the cannister itself) Crappy seal on the fuel cap, spilled or overfilled when refueled, totally full tank and some hard left hand turns(noted the overflow hose under the car had a drop or two of gas after hammering on it, presume it was gas sloshing around and getting out through it) running pig rich, non-firing plug, bad lines in tunnel or engine compartment, hmm...all that comes to mind
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type47 |
Aug 15 2006, 10:23 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
[/quote] It's dry under the car, and I don't really smell anything around it. What access hole do I peer through to see the plastic lines? [/quote] the only access i know is in the front, beneath the dash where the wires go into the tunnel; by the shifter; and at the base of the rear bulkhead under an access panel. |
Brett W |
Aug 15 2006, 11:30 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None |
I never could get my car not to smell like gas when I filled it up all the way. Even with two new caps, some custom seals on the cap, new hoses and gaskets around the lid and emissions cans. I just stop going past 3/4 tank. If I hadn't killed it I would have done something different for the cap arrangement. I like the 75 and later screw on cap design better.
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Kirmizi |
Aug 15 2006, 12:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 836 Joined: 12-February 06 From: Wyoming, US Member No.: 5,568 Region Association: None |
I had the same problem with my '75. The first place I checked was the fuel pump lines by removing the pump. Sure enough, one of them had split and had a slight leak. I replaced everything from the tank to the hard plastic line and haven't had any gas aroma since. You might want to double check the clamps and look underneath the tank to ensure the nipples from the tank didn't work themselves loose when the hoses were replaced. It doesn't take much gas to give off a lot of odor. Mike
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brant |
Aug 15 2006, 12:53 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,624 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Jens,
please don't take this as a personal insult. but perhaps a change of diet would help? just kiddin brant |
jk76.914 |
Aug 15 2006, 02:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 809 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Massachusetts Member No.: 3,925 Region Association: North East States |
I had the same problem with my '75. The first place I checked was the fuel pump lines by removing the pump. Sure enough, one of them had split and had a slight leak. I replaced everything from the tank to the hard plastic line and haven't had any gas aroma since. You might want to double check the clamps and look underneath the tank to ensure the nipples from the tank didn't work themselves loose when the hoses were replaced. It doesn't take much gas to give off a lot of odor. Mike Ditto on my '76. The old rubber hoses that connect to the fuel filter had lost their elasticity, and started to seep. I tried cutting a few inches off to get to a fresh stump, but the whole hose was dried out. Had to pull the tank and replace. Make sure these guys actually replaced the hoses under the tank. Did they replace the sock on the supply line inside the tank? If so, did they use any seals? Can't remember if there's one or two? Somebody help! Jim |
type4org |
Aug 15 2006, 06:15 PM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
please don't take this as a personal insult. but perhaps a change of diet would help? Damn, I knew all that good Thai food would do me in one day! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
type4org |
Aug 15 2006, 06:17 PM
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You need PLAID! Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 13-June 06 From: Oldenburg (Oldb), Germany Member No.: 6,212 |
I got one step further today. Despite the fact that the smell seems to have gone (well, I'll trust that after a few more smell-free days) I did replace the rubber lines for tank venting. I wanted to do the engine bay one as well that hooks up to the charcoal canister, but ran out of 5mm ID hose. Darn.
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So.Cal.914 |
Aug 15 2006, 07:37 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
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byndbad914 |
Aug 15 2006, 07:50 PM
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shoehorn and some butter - it fits Group: Members Posts: 1,547 Joined: 23-January 06 From: Broomfield, CO Member No.: 5,463 Region Association: None |
I had a weird one on my 72 - would smell gas after it sat a bit (especially overnight) and NEVER had a drop of fuel under the car. I pulled the tank finally and there is a pad that sits between the tank and the firewall right above the pedals. That had collected water over the years and caused the tank to rust through (pinhole size).
I asked around after that happened and it wasn't too uncommon apparently (according to shop guys I asked). The pinhole would leak gas into the pad (so it never leaked to the ground or elsewhere, just absorbed into the pad) and smell up the interior. I just sanded it pretty clean and JB welded it until I was able to get another, good tank a couple weeks later. |
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