/6 Conversion Throttle Set-up, Please show me what you have. |
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/6 Conversion Throttle Set-up, Please show me what you have. |
Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 03:11 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I just got done replacing my clutch cable and started to see if I could adjust my throttle so I could get the carbs to fully open.
I have a bell crank that mounts to the right side of the tranny and just doesn't seem right. The way the cable is routed to it, makes 3 or 4 really tight bends and leaves it touching the top of the cv joint. What are you guys using for throttle set-up with carbs? Pics would be very, very goooood.... |
Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 1 2006, 03:33 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
A pic from you would be really good, too. I used the RichJohnson kit, which is much like the factory setup, and it worked just fine. BTW, the 914/6 bell crank is like no other, so you have to use one to get the right proportions. The Cap'n
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Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 03:50 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
A pic from you would be really good, too. I used the RichJohnson kit, which is much like the factory setup, and it worked just fine. BTW, the 914/6 bell crank is like no other, so you have to use one to get the right proportions. The Cap'n This is one that the PO put together. I'll post some pics in a little while. Where do you get the Rich Johnson set up Cap'n? |
echocanyons |
Sep 1 2006, 03:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
you could try asking Rich Johnson (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 04:17 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
That's a pretty good idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) I sent him a pm, the pics in his resource thread don't show up... |
Brad Roberts |
Sep 1 2006, 04:19 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
RJ kit all the way. I know it works correctly every time.
The RJ kit is a replica bolt on solution based on the original factory design. B |
Porsche Rescue |
Sep 1 2006, 05:12 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
I used RJ kit and it was great. You need to drill one hole in case but he gives you a template and real good instructions. Included is bracket, bell crank, factory rod and throttle cable. Expensive but worth it.
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Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 05:48 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Here are a couple of picks of what I have now. Can only get about 2/3 throttle and really stiff throttle.
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Porsche Rescue |
Sep 1 2006, 06:00 PM
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Saving and Enjoying Old Porsches Group: Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Bend, Oregon Member No.: 64 Region Association: None |
You might try shortening the rod and lengthening the cable to see if that helps. Disconnect the cable from the lever, adjust the rod to get wide open butterflies when working the lever by hand from below (someone else peering into/at the carbs). Then adjust the cable to fit.
You have Dan's fabrication which others have found to work OK. Rich's is over $300 so if you can make yours work it is worth a little effort. |
Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 06:07 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm starting to think that "Dad" put it on upside down and ass backwards after he tried to "Make It Better".... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 06:10 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
You might try shortening the rod and lengthening the cable to see if that helps. Disconnect the cable from the lever, adjust the rod to get wide open butterflies when working the lever by hand from below (someone else peering into/at the carbs). Then adjust the cable to fit. Everything is as tight as I can get it. Fittings are bottomed out and the cable is still loose.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
J P Stein |
Sep 1 2006, 06:15 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
This is pretty much the stock set-up. No binds or "bad angles" and works like it.
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Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 06:25 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
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Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 06:31 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
This angle bothers me.
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J P Stein |
Sep 1 2006, 06:37 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
That's the stock 914/6 throttle cable. Note that the pivot mounts 3-5 inches farther aft.....I don't like your cable bind either nor the angle of the piece going into the tin....but it may be just me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
IIRC, the RJ pieces put "stuff" where the orginals were using a similar method to yours. |
Cap'n Krusty |
Sep 1 2006, 06:40 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Walt Disney would be proud. All it lacks is the big round ears .......... All joking aside, get the kit, install it, and be done with fooling around. The Cap'n
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Allan |
Sep 1 2006, 06:58 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
Walt Disney would be proud. All it lacks is the big round ears .......... All joking aside, get the kit, install it, and be done with fooling around. The Cap'n I agree, John can you make it over on Tuesday to help? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
echocanyons |
Sep 1 2006, 07:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
In the install design diagram it doesn't show a bind? Is yours setup right or would there be an inherent bind with that setup
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SLITS |
Sep 1 2006, 09:14 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
I'm sure that tab that the throttle cable goes thru, as it is made of mild steel, can be tweaked with a japanese adjustable wrench to lessen the severity of the angle.
You also could possibly slot the mounting holes a tad to bring the top bolt mount sown slightly and bring the bottom mount bolt up slightly. The cable end could be trimmed a bit and pushed farther into the barrel nut. It doesn't care if it clamps that nice round rod or the cable itself. Yes, I love Pixie Dust and Mouse ears ..... it may not be perfect, but it didn't cost $300. So call me a "Mickey Mouser" ..... fixed a lot of cars at the track with non-perfect methods to finish a race. |
Trekkor |
Sep 1 2006, 09:47 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I also use Dan's kit.
This is the prototype unit. I have zero problems. Full throttle. Easy heel/toe work. Your picture seems to show the throttle rod as being too short. A longer push rod will put the cable at a better angle...Like mine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The stiff throttle action is prolly the accel cable binding out of the firewall tube. You need to bend it down slightly because it is no longer going up into the engine bay. My cables were sawing back and forth, binding and breaking pretty quickly. Now they don't. KT Attached image(s) |
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