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| mikey |
 Sep 14 2006, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(Howard @ Sep 13 2006, 11:34 PM)  Swallow Doretti (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Howard got it. 1954 Swallow Doretti |
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| Howard |
Sep 14 2006, 08:39 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None 
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It's new and available now. It generates 1000 lb/ft torque, 0-60 in 4 seconds.
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| Gustl |
Sep 14 2006, 08:49 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
did you stretch the photo?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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| Howard |
Sep 14 2006, 08:51 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None
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No, it's really that ugly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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| boxstr |
Sep 14 2006, 08:56 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
TANGO
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| boxstr |
Sep 14 2006, 08:59 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You can got to www.commutercars.com or
The TANGO specs Width: 39" (5" narrower than a Honda Gold Wing) Length: 8'5" long, allowing it to park perpendicular to the curb. Height: 60" Ground Clearance: 4" Weight: 3,057 lbs. Distribution: 44.3/55.7 (percent front/rear) Batteries: 19 Hawker Odyssey's or 25 Exide Orbital XCD's or Optima Yellow Tops. Will accommodate Ni-MH and/or Li-Ion batteries in the future. Nominal Voltage: 228 V with 19 Hawkers (300 V with 25 batteries) Battery Weight: 988 lbs. (Hawker) or 1,025 lbs (Exide) or 1,125 lbs (Optima) Charging: 50 amp on-board charger with Avcon conductive coupling. 200 amp off-board charger under development. Steering: Rack and pinion with Cadillac CTS collapsible steering column and Momo Corse steering wheel Front Suspension: Unequal length A-arm with coil-over Bilstein shocks. Rear Suspension: Trailing arm with coil-over Bilstein shocks. Controller: Zilla Z2K motor controller, providing up to 2,000 Amps at 300 Volts (600 kW). Designed and built by Otmar Ebenhoech at Café Electric LLC in Palo Alto, CA. Motors: 2 Advanced DC FB1-4001 9" motors, one driving each rear wheel with over 1,000 ft-lb of combined torque at low rpms. 8,000 rpm redline. Transmission: 2 direct drive gear boxes designed by Bert Transmission of St-Constant, Québec, the leading manufacturer of dirt circle track race car transmissions. Semi-quick-change with 10 available ratios from 2.92:1 to 5:1. Standard ratio is 3.25:1. Splined locker can be easily engaged by removing C-clip, sliding sleeve and replacing C-clip. Wheels: 5.5 x 13, 3 spoke alloy, 5 bolt on 115 mm center Hubs/Wheel Bearings: As used on the Pontiac Bonneville and some Cadillacs. Front Tires: BF Goodrich Euro T/A 175/50R13 M+S Rear Tires: Yokohama Advan A032R P215/50R13 (S Compound): Yokohama's ultimate DOT-approved racing tire. Brakes: Acura Integra front disk brake calipers and Scorpio rear calipers (with integrated parking brake). Wilwood master cylinder and pedal assembly. HVAC: 12,000 BTU Vintage Air air conditioning system driven by variable speed AC motor for predictable climate control. 3,000 W electric heater for instant-on, powerful heating. Seating: Tandem Sparco Roadster bucket seats with attached 4-point harness structures. Passenger straddles the front seat and harness structures which do not interfere with the passenger's knees. Storage: Passenger and a few bags of groceries with rear seat installed. Removed, it allows seven 10-ream cartons of paper with the driver's seat in extended position. (Rear seat with harness structure is removable through rear hatch.) Multiple compartments for smaller items. Headroom: 39" driver and passenger. Trailer Hitch: Accepts standard 1.25" hitch for towing generator cart for extended range. Note: Projected performance specifications will vary depending on final weight, gearing, tires, and batteries used. Acceleration figures assume racing slicks are used on a drag strip. Range: 40-80 miles maximum with Lead-Acid batteries 60-160 miles maximum with NiMH batteries Cost per Mile: About 1/2 the cost of a gasoline car for the average commuter. (See note.) Acceleration: 0 to 60 MPH, about 4 seconds. 1/4 mile time about 12 seconds at a speed of approx. 120 MPH (See note.) Top Speed: 150 MPH (See note.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Notes: Cost per Mile: The average round-trip commute in the U.S. is 20 miles according to the 2000 report from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. For that average commute of 20 miles and up to 24 miles per charge, the total cost per mile of the Tango is approximately 30% lower than that of a Honda Insight. This includes battery replacement, maintenance, and the cost of electricity at $.05 per kWh (as in the Northwest). The Honda Insight has an EPA rating of 56 mpg city and 57 highway. Please see the Cost-per-Mile Spreadsheet for details. This spreadsheet shows how the Tango compares with other vehicles, both Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) driven and hybrid. It includes gasoline and recommended dealer maintenance costs for the gasoline cars and electricity, maintenance, and battery replacement costs for the Tango. In California where electricity rates are nearly $.15 per kWh, the total cost per mile for the Tango becomes roughly equal to that of the Insight. Electricity cost per mile runs from 0.9 cents to 2.6 cents as cost per kWh goes from 5 cents to 15 cents. Battery replacement is the largest portion of the cost-per-mile for an electric car. To demonstrate how this works, we use Optima's cycle life vs. depth of discharge graph. This graph applies to laboratory-controlled charge and discharge cycles, yet is quite indicative of the effects of driver habits. If the Tango were driven to 80% DOD (depth of discharge) or more (approximately 64 to 80 miles regularly between charges), the pack will only yield 250 cycles. This works out to approximately 16 cents per mile with current Optima Yellow Top prices of $100. However, if discharged to 25% DOD (20 to 24 miles between charges), the chart shows 4,000 cycles can be achieved yielding 80,000 miles with a cost of only 3.1 cents per mile. Acceleration: 0 to 60 MPH, about 4 seconds. 1/4 mile time about 12 seconds at a speed of approximately 120 MPH. These figures are based on comparisons with other cars that hold official records with NEDRA (National Electric Drag Racing Association). Calculations have taken weight, motor torque, controller, voltage, gear ratio, and traction into consideration. They assume that racing slicks are fitted and driven on a drag strip with good traction conditions. For example, the world record held for a dragster used the same controller as the Tango in the Current Eliminator IV, with a quarter mile time of 8.801 seconds at 137.65 MPH. The Tango has the same motors that the Maniac Mazda used to achieve an 11.039 second quarter mile at 111.80 MPH. Top Speed: 150 MPH. This is a limitation based on a practical red-line for the motors of about 8,000 RPM with the standard 3.25:1 gear ratio. Top speed vs. acceleration can be traded off by choosing any of 10 different ratios from 2.92:1 giving a top speed of 172 MPH to 5:1 which would give a top speed of 100 MPH. The 5:1 would give phenomenal acceleration if you could get enough traction. |
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| Howard |
Sep 14 2006, 09:14 AM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None
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| boxstr |
Sep 14 2006, 09:49 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Okay try this one, may be easy for some of you.
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| boxstr |
Sep 14 2006, 07:26 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
bump
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| Gustl |
Sep 15 2006, 03:08 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
here's the solution: http://www.twike.ch/
it's a Twike from Swizerland (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
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| Gustl |
Sep 15 2006, 03:10 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
sorry that I don't wait for confirmation, but I need your help with this one ...
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| Howard |
Sep 15 2006, 03:39 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None
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A Lotus XI with a really bad nose job?
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| Gustl |
Sep 15 2006, 04:17 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
QUOTE(Howard @ Sep 15 2006, 11:39 PM) A Lotus XI with a really bad nose job? the Lotus thing was my first idea too but based on a rumor it's a US car ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
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| wit61 |
Sep 15 2006, 05:35 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 20-June 06 From: PA Member No.: 6,269 |
That's a Mosquito Proboscis....Very rare.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE(Gustl @ Sep 15 2006, 05:10 PM) sorry that I don't wait for confirmation, but I need your help with this one ... |
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| Gustl |
Sep 16 2006, 12:25 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Sep 16 2006, 01:30 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,485 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None 
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Did anyone notice the 914 contecnt of the Tango above?
"Controller: Zilla Z2K motor controller, providing up to 2,000 Amps at 300 Volts (600 kW). Designed and built by Otmar Ebenhoech at Café Electric LLC in Palo Alto, CA." Built by one of our own... |
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| Gustl |
Sep 19 2006, 07:44 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,489 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
another guy found out that the red car was a "Bocar Stiletto"
here's another question which should be easier for you ... I was told that it is an american car: Attached thumbnail(s)  Attached image(s) 
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| boxstr |
Sep 19 2006, 08:52 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Cadillac allante.
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| Ferg |
Sep 19 2006, 10:48 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,948 Joined: 8-January 03 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 116 Region Association: None
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1969 Ford Galaxie Vert?
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| URY914 |
Sep 19 2006, 01:24 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,254 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Here is a good one. I don't know if it is a kit car or a real car. Maybe a Saab Sonnett with a body kit???
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