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> Six Motor: Oil Cooler Relocate, Anyone seen this part?
McMark
post Sep 13 2006, 01:43 PM
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I need a plate/adapter that will bolt in place of the stock six motor oil cooler. Has anyone seen a part like this? Or do I need to get it custom fabricated.

I am mounting something else in place of the oil cooler, so I need to be able to re-route the oil cooler inlet to the oil cooler outlet.
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post Sep 13 2006, 02:01 PM
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Check the Smart racing catalog. They "had" a plate in the past that bolts on. One for adding an oil filter and one with fittings.


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post Sep 13 2006, 02:08 PM
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Is there anyone that sells a replacement 914/6 oil cooler? Maybe a 911 cooler with the fittings relocated?
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post Sep 13 2006, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Lawrence @ Sep 13 2006, 01:08 PM) *

Is there anyone that sells a replacement 914/6 oil cooler? Maybe a 911 cooler with the fittings relocated?


Otto's.

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post Sep 13 2006, 02:21 PM
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There was a factory piece out there but I believe it's a race component only. It would be rare. It seems to be a more popular item these days so I know they exist. Try sources listed and/or Parts Obsolete.

Rusty... none that I know of but there are those who perform the mod.
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post Sep 13 2006, 02:30 PM
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There was a factory piece out there but I believe it's a race component only. It would be rare.



Its not a race piece, and its not rare.

Its a block off for a 964 engine, you can get them with either a straight or angled oil filter

http://www.smartracingproducts.com/pdfcat/...engine_fuel.pdf
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post Sep 13 2006, 02:33 PM
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I'm talking about the very early ones... they were pictured on some factory race engines.

I know there are new ones available.
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post Sep 13 2006, 05:19 PM
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I checked SMART and found what ya'll mentioned. I knew someone had something like that and I thought it was Patrick Motorsports (they didn't have anything), but now I see it was SMART.

I need a lower profile solution than the filter plate. I already have the filter mount (993). I said oil cooler so more people would understand where on the engine I'm talking about. I'm guessing I'll have about 1" of clearance from the engine case.
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post Sep 13 2006, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 13 2006, 04:19 PM) *

I need a lower profile solution than the filter plate. I already have the filter mount (993). I said oil cooler so more people would understand where on the engine I'm talking about. I'm guessing I'll have about 1" of clearance from the engine case.


hey brad, you sent me a exploded diagram (looked like pet) once that had the oiltank and hardware on it.

that *should* show the blockoff and mounting brackets as well ...

mark and i did a quick "testfitting" of the tank, and there's a lot of fitting issues, two mounting holes are nowhere near any existing brackets and the fuelrail prevents the tank from being mounted close to the engine.
at least a 2" gap ...

i can't find any of the pictures you sent me (back in the MoM days) ...
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PS: there *has* to be a factory part for this as i have seen factory engines with that blockoff and *no* oil-filter in that location ...
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post Sep 13 2006, 08:56 PM
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post Sep 13 2006, 10:10 PM
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alright! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)

so, we need at least one of those grommets, some sort of adapter for the lower oil-line to case connection, caps for the upper passages, and all the little stuff for the fillerneck and level-sender, dipstick etc. ...

looks like the double-inlet piece we got is stock ...

for the mounting, there's a large bolt on the lower part of the motor, below the valve cover where we could attach a bracket and there's that blocked off line fitting at the top for a second bracket.

that actually looks better than i though.
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post Sep 13 2006, 11:52 PM
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Bad news, flipping the fuel rails only gets you 1/2". Add 996 fuel rails to your list.
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post Sep 14 2006, 12:16 AM
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caps for the upper passages


Not unless you can provide a 95 993 oil flow diagram. Everything I'm seeing says we need to reroute the out to the in. Which is either a custom plate of modify the existing filter console.
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post Sep 14 2006, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 13 2006, 10:52 PM) *

Bad news, flipping the fuel rails only gets you 1/2". Add 996 fuel rails to your list.


how about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) ???

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post Sep 14 2006, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 13 2006, 11:16 PM) *

Not unless you can provide a 95 993 oil flow diagram. Everything I'm seeing says we need to reroute the out to the in. Which is either a custom plate of modify the existing filter console.


how big is the dia. of those passages?

a re-route won't be that difficult, but clearance is going to be an issue. the tank looks like a tight fit ...
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Proof, no plugging the holes. We need a block-off/re-route plate. If we plugged the hole all the oil would dump into the bottom of the engine.


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post Sep 14 2006, 12:36 AM
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Proof, no plugging the holes. We need a block-off/re-route plate. If we plugged the hole all the oil would dump into the bottom of the engine.


hey, that'll come in handy!

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post Sep 14 2006, 12:37 AM
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ok, looking at the oil-flow diagram, some locations are obvious, others not so much (at least to me) ...

any 996 guys out there? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

where do we pick up the oil for the remote filter/thermostat/cooler ???
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QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 13 2006, 02:43 PM) *

I need a plate/adapter that will bolt in place of the stock six motor oil cooler. Has anyone seen a part like this? Or do I need to get it custom fabricated.

I am mounting something else in place of the oil cooler, so I need to be able to re-route the oil cooler inlet to the oil cooler outlet.



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