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> Club Shirt V3?, Jeron are you taking over for Sean?
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post Sep 14 2006, 04:30 PM
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I'd like to see this badge outline on some club clothing product.

Like t-shirts, sweat shirts and hats. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

Who's taking over for Sean now that he's off to the circus?


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post Sep 14 2006, 04:51 PM
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One of the other admins (who will be announced soon)

This person will end up handling all of the "Goodie Store"




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post Sep 14 2006, 04:58 PM
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post Sep 14 2006, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Sep 14 2006, 03:51 PM) *

One of the other admins (who will be announced soon)

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Shrouded in secrecy the admins are... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yoda.gif)

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post Sep 14 2006, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ Sep 14 2006, 04:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Sep 14 2006, 03:51 PM) *

One of the other admins (who will be announced soon)

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Shrouded in secrecy the admins are... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yoda.gif)

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"ENOUGH is ENOUGH! I'm tired of these muthaf***in Admins on This mothaf***in Site!" - samuel L jackson "admins on a clubsite"
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post Sep 14 2006, 05:40 PM
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It's getting cold here, snow in the forecast above 9000ft. I could use a jacket with the logo on it or just a patch that can be applied to whatever, like the other side of the Shelby jacket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
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post Sep 14 2006, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(shelby/914 @ Sep 14 2006, 04:40 PM) *

It's getting cold here, snow in the forecast above 9000ft. I could use a jacket with the logo on it or just a patch that can be applied to whatever, like the other side of the Shelby jacket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Patches good...jacket good.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 14 2006, 09:18 PM
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We have a billion idea's.

We are trying to get some money in the bank so people dont have to pay in advance for *stuff*. It would be nice to "stock" some of this stuff and stop ordering "what we need"

We are headed there.



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post Sep 14 2006, 09:32 PM
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Aaron,

I dont have the password for the "admin" area on this machine..LOL , but I still get the email notifications!!!

The admin I'm referring to already exists.. and has already proven himself to be a person who gets shit done. He is also close to retirement..LOL



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post Sep 15 2006, 05:27 AM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Sep 14 2006, 04:15 PM) *
"ENOUGH is ENOUGH! I'm tired of these muthaf***in Admins on This mothaf***in Site!" - samuel L jackson "admins on a clubsite"


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post Sep 15 2006, 09:59 AM
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post Sep 15 2006, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Sep 14 2006, 08:18 PM) *

We have a billion idea's.

We are trying to get some money in the bank so people dont have to pay in advance for *stuff*. It would be nice to "stock" some of this stuff and stop ordering "what we need"

We are headed there.

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) so we're heading towards a profit making club now?

I'm sensing that the the badges cost more than they needed too...Good thing there was full disclosure on that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Sep 15 2006, 11:00 AM
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the badges are very expensive to have produced.

We are not a profit making club...we would, however, like to be able to pay for our own events without the organizer coming out of pocket.
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post Sep 15 2006, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(Moron Sean @ Sep 15 2006, 10:00 AM) *

the badges are very expensive to have produced.

We are not a profit making club...we would, however, like to be able to pay for our own events without the organizer coming out of pocket.


Profits must be made in order to acheive the stated goal. The extra money has to come out of someone's pocket.

All I'm saying is that it is courteous to disclose where the extra proceeds are going.

The product cost $X, the extra proceeds will go to fund $X.

The covert stuff is bad business...
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post Sep 15 2006, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(shelby/914 @ Sep 14 2006, 07:40 PM) *

It's getting cold here, snow in the forecast above 9000ft. I could use a jacket with the logo on it or just a patch that can be applied to whatever, like the other side of the Shelby jacket. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)


Oh yeah, or a Gulf Porsche jacket with a club logo.
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post Sep 15 2006, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Jenny @ Sep 14 2006, 04:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Sep 14 2006, 03:51 PM) *

One of the other admins (who will be announced soon)

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Shrouded in secrecy the admins are... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yoda.gif)

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Missed seeing you at GAF. The Shaohsing was very much appreciated. Thank you and Brian.

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post Sep 15 2006, 05:53 PM
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Profits must be made in order to acheive the stated goal. The extra money has to come out of someone's pocket.

All I'm saying is that it is courteous to disclose where the extra proceeds are going.

The product cost $X, the extra proceeds will go to fund $X.

The covert stuff is bad business...



Gwen,

when was the last time Snap-On told you how much it "costs" to make the hand held scanners you are involved in?

I have NEVER ever worked for a company who "gave" out the numbers. All it does is cause controversy. Does it *really* matter what or where the money is going? Have we EVER asked you "how much" did you make off selling shirts and all the other 914 related stuff you push? I dont ask Engman how much he has sold because of this site. I havent asked Chris Foley "how much" or Ira from Tarret, or James from JWest.. so why would you ask us this question? Are you afraid someone besides yourself might make money?? I just dont get when people ask this question.

Please explain. I dont recall ever asking a 914 customer "how much money do you make?" so I can determine how much I'm going to charge you?? LOL

I'm all ears. I would love to know "why" anyone needs to know the numbers? Not one time have I asked "Sean" how much money he has made on ALL the hats/shirts and such he has sold.

Bottom line: It is NONE of my business


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post Sep 15 2006, 06:00 PM
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I think what Gwen might have been saying is that it's pretty standard for non-profits to fully disclose financials. For example, PCA SDR every year (maybe every month) in the magazine shows revenue for different events, cash balance, etc.

Regardless, to me, I have no problem with someone making a profit and I personally don't understand even why this club has to be a non-profit. I think it could actually be better if it's wasn't non-profit and the club could spend some decent money on servers/t-shirts etc. Why do we only need to rely on volunteers and donations? Not that I'm rich, but I have more money to donate (or buy stuff with) than time.

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post Sep 15 2006, 06:44 PM
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Thank you Steve, for undertsanding my point.

I'm not saying that the club can't or shouldn't make money for sponsored events. Just that IT SHOULD BE DISCLOSED.

Proceeds from the sale of X, Y, Z are going to ....

The money raised through the various "Classic" get-togethers do this already. But it has gone to charity and not the club.

Not that it is relevant, but it answers your irrelevant point of contention...

Those other folks you mentioned making money through the site, never claimed to be non-profit organizations. They openly solicit business, many as a primary source of income. It's called Target Marketing.

Club members asked me to provide my artwork in a functional way. The stuff I sell these days goes through CafePress who makes the bulk of the money off my designs. I average maybe $3 an item. I agree, it is a burden for someone who is not in business to do this kind of thing to have to pre-pay for all the stuff, collect money from virtual strangers and deal with shipping.....which is why I use CafePress. They handle everything (keep most of the money) and send me any profits over $50. So don't worry, I'm not going to retire on the backs of this club. I do it as a labor of love. Most of the money I manage to make goes back into club product anyway...

What is not expected is a call for a group buy on a product and then find out months later, inadvertantly by yourslef today, that some extra money was tacked on to stockpile for the future.

It's the non-disclosure that chaps my hide. Why don't you undertsand that?

I'm starting to think it's a Texas thing... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Oh, THAT non-disclosure... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 15 2006, 07:10 PM
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Dammit Brad, THIS was why we wrote the manifesto. So we could explain ourselves clearly. I'm so tired of this bullshit.
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