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> ENGINE TIN PAINT.. whats a perfect match?
tod914
post Sep 22 2006, 12:02 PM
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Looking to refinish the plenium and touch up a couple of other areas. Has anyone found a perfect match to the factory finish?
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post Sep 22 2006, 12:36 PM
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Todd - we used standar POR 15 on my sheet metal - not sure how it'll work out but if you swing by MovieTime Sunday you can catch a look.

Wasn't the factory finish just black?
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post Sep 22 2006, 12:38 PM
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if you really want it to match, have it powdercoated. i'll look at my records and the finish i chose when i get home, but definately, go for the powdercoating for a factory finish.
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post Sep 22 2006, 12:39 PM
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Is Por-15 fuel and oil resistant.
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post Sep 22 2006, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(anthony @ Sep 22 2006, 02:39 PM) *

Is Por-15 fuel and oil resistant.


Don't know - I'll tell ya in a couple years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

We asked that question on the board a few weeks ago but didn't get a conclusive answer. We had plenty of POR-15 around and figured "what the hell!".

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post Sep 22 2006, 01:05 PM
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POR looks good, but I think it's too glossy. Im trying to blend into the existing so I can preserve the sticker and stenciled number. I just got in a new rear tin piece. Guess I'll take that with me and see if I can find a match. The PC would be ideal, but just want to touch up the existing for now being the motor isn't being pulled.

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post Sep 22 2006, 01:27 PM
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Just found this on the net... didnt realize the pca site had a tech section.

http://www.pca.org/tech/tech_qa_question.a...8-31F7A25B00CB}

Dave Cheek mentioned the Masory before but can't seem to locate it.

Lots of good info on this... http://www.pca.org/tech/tech_qa.asp
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post Sep 22 2006, 03:43 PM
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I just looked on POR's site. I'm pretty sure they also have satin black top coast for a less glossy look. They also say it's oil and fuel resistant.
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post Sep 22 2006, 04:36 PM
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por15 chasis black i think its called. was looking at that in the auto store today. was thinking about redoing my trailing arms with it.
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post Sep 22 2006, 06:37 PM
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I have some of the POR-15 semi-gloss - not the chassis top coat. It is a 'color' of POR-15. It is a really nice finish but if you are going cw you may not be pleased with it. The black is not as deep as the original paint. I know that sounds all interior designer but you have to see it.
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post Sep 22 2006, 07:26 PM
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OK, I'm going to make myself very unpopular here! For this application, I think powdercoating is dead wrong! It does not resemble the Factory finish because it has too much grain to it.

These pieces should have a smoothe satin finish to them - you cannot get that with powdercoating. POR is effective, but crude.

Have the pieces (or do it youself, as I did) prep'd & painted with Masury, if you can find it, or (HORRORS) a decent replacement. What, are you worried about the paint's acceptance of fuel? Have a leak - mop it up, or watch it blow up. The paint won't care! I've have plent of leaks & the paint didn't care, though I ran for the extinguisher.

Contemporary paints work just fine & you can duplicate the finish by adjusting your air pressure. Powder coating is OK, but it ain't even close to a Factory finish.

The prersonal 2 cents worth from a Purist.
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post Sep 22 2006, 07:53 PM
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I would agree that POR-15 is probably overkill in this application. I mean do we ever see engine tin rust?

I think most guys doing a non-concours restoration would probably want the most durable paint or treatment that would resist becoming dingy as much as possible.
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post Sep 22 2006, 11:40 PM
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Aha, thats why we love this place...genuine people trying to help each other. Powder coatings are used because of their high durability and they are available in a wide variety of colors, textures and glosses.

Here is my take:

I recently had my tin and all the black engine bay pieces powdercoated and if you know me, I can about all the details.

The shop I used was experienced in Porsche/VW restorations and they used a powdercoat "BK05", which is a 60% gloss black, I do not know the mfr, but I could probably find out. I know its a major powdercoat brand so any decent powdercoater could probably ID it from that spec. Its a dead ringer for the factory finish, but much more durable.

I have a perfect product for the heat exchangers and intake manifold tubing too, but I have posted that before.

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post Sep 23 2006, 12:19 AM
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The paint is called Iron Oxyde brown. It will match the rest of most 914's out there

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post Sep 23 2006, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Sep 22 2006, 10:40 PM) *

I have a perfect product for the heat exchangers and intake manifold tubing too, but I have posted that before.



Please share it again. I will be doing intake manifolds soon.

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post Sep 23 2006, 08:53 AM
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I compared the new engine tin piece to Wurth Satin/Semigloss. It has more gloss to it than the Wurth. It seems it would be midway between that and gloss. I'll keep poking around and see what I can come up with.
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post Sep 23 2006, 09:09 AM
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For the intake mainfolds and heat exchangers, its a ceramic exhaust coating from Techline Coatings. "Colorgard - Titanium". Have a shop do it for the best results. Any powdercoater can get this stuff.

http://www.techlinecoatings.com/Exhaust.htm

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post Sep 23 2006, 04:20 PM
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Jeff is that coating is it a flat/matte finish?
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post Sep 23 2006, 04:41 PM
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I have compared the two side by side and its identical to the OEM finish in color and gloss characteristics.
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post Sep 23 2006, 05:06 PM
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Cool good to know, thanks Jeff
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