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> The official, WTF happened to TurtleGirl's engine...., ...on the way to Moab.
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post Sep 27 2006, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(Toast @ Sep 27 2006, 10:53 AM) *

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Sorry Liz! That totaly sucks! And I thought my car problems sucked. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Sounds like its time for a NM "Lets Fix Turtlegirl's Engine" get together.



Not a bad idea, that. 'course, Liz doesn't often find time to drown her sorrows much, not having that much time or inclination to get totally wasted ... but this might be the time and the inclination for such a rare occasion. Maybe after she gets it fixed would be the time for a very relieved (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

I strongly suspect that Joe can fix it without too much fuss and cost - not a new engine, certainly. After all, Joe's pretty handy with a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) as I can tell you after working on my ex-1997 VW Jetta.

Actually, I thought I'd be the one who developed such a problem, even though my engine is "new" by many of you teeners' standards having been made in 1992 - since I was the jackass that missed a downshift from 5th to 4th trying to put it in 2nd instead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I plead the fifth on the reasons behind that one, and no, Andy, it was well before we started drinking so my brain was still on. More or less. Kinda.

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post Sep 27 2006, 11:19 PM
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I'm gonna go with my original gut feeling... broken rings/ring lands
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post Sep 27 2006, 11:21 PM
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I'm gonna go with my original gut feeling... broken rings/ring lands


my original guess was a broken ring due to lack of oil due to fuel washing it away for being rich...

i dunno....

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post Sep 28 2006, 07:54 AM
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Are we putting money on our speculations?
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post Sep 28 2006, 08:06 AM
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I'm gonna go with my original gut feeling... broken rings/ring lands


That was my thinking back in Moab. The only weird thing is zero compression. I'm still inclined to think rings and such.
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post Sep 28 2006, 08:46 AM
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I'll try a different guess...

scored cylinder....oily sparkplug, zero compression.....seen it once or twice including a loose wrist pin that scored the shit outta the cylinder cuz the engine builder didn't install a clip. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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post Sep 28 2006, 08:50 AM
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I'm going to guess either a cracked or burnt piston; or a burnt/bent valve.

Just my guess, it could be a handfull of different things. Those are just the two that I've seen firsthand.

Either way a bummer.

Much less embarassing than the owner dropping a screw down the intake. (not me, a customer)
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post Sep 28 2006, 08:57 AM
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Much less embarassing than the owner dropping a screw down the intake. (not me, a customer)


btdt--a helper dropped a carb wingnut down a carb (have a ever said how much I hate carbs) and didn't tell me. Drove the car and chipped a small spot in a exhaust valve which when the engine get hot made it have a miss. Only when it was hot, drove me nuts especially when I was told about 2 weeks later about the dropped nut.
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post Sep 28 2006, 09:11 AM
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Okay, if this is gonna be a guessing game, my money is on a very small hole in the piston, a hole about the diameter of a ......



























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post Sep 28 2006, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Sep 27 2006, 09:19 PM) *

I'm gonna go with my original gut feeling... broken rings/ring lands


If it's really at -0- compression, it's more than just rings. Think about standard skirt clearances and how much air can get by. It will make compression with bad rings. Leak numbers are a different story.

Shoot, we've run turbo motors with no rings. High RPM race motors only run 1 ring - thin too - about 1mm.

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post Sep 28 2006, 10:29 AM
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Okay, if this is gonna be a guessing game, my money is on a very small hole in the piston, a hole about the diameter of a ......

I remember that thread! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

























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post Sep 28 2006, 10:37 AM
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My guess, stem bent, head off, or exhaust seat out of place holding the exhaust valve open, that inturn broke the piston causing a hole. Exhaust is backing up from the other cylinders through the open (damaged ) exhaust valve and holed piston into the crank case, hence the exhaust coming out the oil filler.

What do we get if were right?
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post Sep 28 2006, 02:19 PM
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Watching you from for the lake...??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)



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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) Wishin you all were here! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif)



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post Sep 28 2006, 03:08 PM
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Hole in piston.
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post Sep 28 2006, 03:20 PM
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Much less embarassing than the owner dropping a screw down the intake. (not me, a customer)


ahem.... "Wingnuts" used to hold air cleaners on Dual carbs have amazing leveraging properties... split a barrel wide open.... but that didn't happen to me.. no it was a friend's brother...yea, that's the story, yea......
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post Sep 28 2006, 05:10 PM
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We have a winner!

(and it was #2, not #5. I was looking at it backwards)


I'll be looking for more than one piece in the sump.



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post Sep 28 2006, 05:14 PM
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now the fun part - what was the cause?

nice work joe :salute:
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Ouch. How do the piston rings break?
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post Sep 28 2006, 05:18 PM
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Ouch. How do the piston rings break?


look closer.. how do RING LANDS break?
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