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jd66921
post Oct 2 2006, 09:16 AM
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Okay, here's the stupid one - changing the oil for the first time and trying to
remove the oil filter. It rotated about 1 turn, and then went "thunk". No more
rotate! Is there a trick, a catch, a protruding thing it catches on? The sides look
clear, andI can't find anything on the top either. I don't want to force anything.

It feels like it is catching toward the front of the engine, but trying to bend it
down there doesn't seem to work either.

Nothing goes easily on this car, huh?

Help!! 1.8 L-Jet, if it matters.

Thanks,

Jeff
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ptravnic
post Oct 2 2006, 09:30 AM
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What happens when you try to go back the other way? Will it tighten back up? I've never heard of stripping the threads but I guess it's possible...

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post Oct 2 2006, 09:33 AM
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It turns freely by hand until it catches??
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post Oct 2 2006, 09:34 AM
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Jeff,
What are you using to loosen the filter? The wrench/tool designed for it, a "universal" filter wrench, or your hands?
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post Oct 2 2006, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(ptravnic @ Oct 2 2006, 08:30 AM) *

I've never heard of stripping the threads but I guess it's possible...

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It has been done before.

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post Oct 2 2006, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Oct 2 2006, 08:34 AM) *

Jeff,
What are you using to loosen the filter? The wrench/tool designed for it, a "universal" filter wrench, or your hands?


It will tighten up again, no clicks or anything.

I had to loosen it with a web wrench, it was tight! Now I am just using my hands.

I makes a thunk sound so it seems to be hitting something, but I can't find
anything for it to hit. It seems to be stuck pretty solidly in that direction.

Is there anything close that it could catch on?

Thanks for the ideas!

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post Oct 2 2006, 09:52 AM
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Jeff,
How many complete turns does the filter make from the time its seated at the engine 'till it makes your "thunk" sound. I can't imagine the filter cartridge is hitting anything.
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post Oct 2 2006, 09:57 AM
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Even if it was hitting something it should slide on by...
I've never had this happen.
I believe I would take it somewhere (not a quicky oil change but a real and qualified garage) and see if the bottom of the filter could be cut off to see if there is a way to attack it from the inside.
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:06 AM
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LOL I remember shaggy's little mishap with the oil filter console.

What I would do is find a replacement console, then take a screwdriver and stab the oil filter through the side and use your foot to spin the filter off.

Chances are the threads are already gone, so any attempt to recitfy the problem is just time wasted.

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post Oct 2 2006, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(SGB @ Oct 2 2006, 08:57 AM) *

Even if it was hitting something it should slide on by...
I've never had this happen.
I believe I would take it somewhere (not a quicky oil change but a real and qualified garage) and see if the bottom of the filter could be cut off to see if there is a way to attack it from the inside.


It makes about one complete turn.

Cutting it was my thought too. But I will probably do it myself. Just seems so
messy though!!! May take a few (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) too.

Never have had this happen to me before. I usually just drop the filter at the last
second!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Any othe ideas?

I appreciate it!!

Jeff
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:11 AM
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Wierd...my first oil change I spent 15 minutes taking some of the heating ducting off so I could really see up in there and get a good angle on loosening the filter (I don't have a good strap wrench). That might be a good move for you to get a better view of what is wrong. Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:20 AM
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Wierd...my first oil change I spent 15 minutes taking some of the heating ducting off so I could really see up in there and get a good angle on loosening the filter (I don't have a good strap wrench). That might be a good move for you to get a better view of what is wrong. Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


The area is wide open. I don't have any heater flappers or hoses in the way.

I'm glad I decided to NOT do this before RRC!! It's the story of my life - f it all up!
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:23 AM
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Just kidding Jeff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I have no technical knowledge to give. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:34 AM
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Jeff,
Don't listen to Toast, she drains here oil just by driving her car down the street (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
or by leaving it in a hotel parking lot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Here is the style of tool I use.

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works pretty easy, and gets it out a little straighter than a strap
(available at WALMART)

Perhaps are you hitting the engine bar when you turn?
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:36 AM
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Jeff,

When Shaggy (Jim) gets home from school today I'm sure he will have some experience to share with you on this subject.

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post Oct 2 2006, 10:38 AM
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:50 AM
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There's always the old screwdriver trick.

Then you get to wipe up the spilled oil with your hair.
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post Oct 2 2006, 11:15 AM
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Does your car have an auxiliary oil cooler?? If so, it might be the sandwich plate adapter that loosened up and is spinning with the filter...

Just a WAG, but a "thunk" doesn't make me think stripped threads...

-Josh2
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post Oct 2 2006, 03:14 PM
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stab it wif a screwdriver and turn.....
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post Oct 2 2006, 03:51 PM
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AAAhhhh, righty tighty lefty loosy, LUCIE!!!


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