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| jd66921 |
 Oct 2 2006, 04:05 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394  |
QUOTE(jhadler @ Oct 2 2006, 10:15 AM)  Does your car have an auxiliary oil cooler?? If so, it might be the sandwich plate adapter that loosened up and is spinning with the filter... Just a WAG, but a "thunk" doesn't make me think stripped threads... -Josh2 Got it!! My neighbor came over and was as confused as I was. So, we took a big screwdriver and drove it through the bottom of the filter. Then he twisted it off. It came off with some pieces on top of it!! Looks to be the oil relief ball, spring, and cap. That must have dropped down and hit the series of holes in the top of the filter. A little brute force twisted the seat off the valve. Now I just need to reseat the relief valve!! Looks easy enough! Thanks for all the help. By the way, I didn't have any problem draining the oil. I did it the normal way, not by driving! (sorry Toast!) Jeff |
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| shaggy |
Oct 2 2006, 04:13 PM
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mechanic/welder/fabricator Group: Members Posts: 702 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,869 Region Association: None |
if you did strip it, prepare to drop the engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
i stripped one by over tightening it. one easy say to tell if its stripped is to start the car. if it pukes out all of the oil in about 5 seconds you have a problem, be sure to have your friend lay dirrectly under it when this is happening so that he can confirm the leak (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) what happened to me was i had to drop the engine then remove the fan assembly as well as the oil cooler. then the oil filter assembly can be removes by un doing 2 nuts. youll need a new assembly(i have an extra if you need it) as well as a new gasket(i can get one simply if you need it and dont have local vw shops) while your in there you should prolly change the oil cooler seals and do a valve adjustment. then engine dosent have to be removed form the tranny to do this and peilcan has a perfect how to on removing the engine. hope that helps some. prepare for an onslaught of jokes about how you cant operate a screw... -shaggy |
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| project-914 |
Oct 2 2006, 04:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 2-August 06 From: Oklahoma Member No.: 6,571 |
you could be turning it the wrong way and the thunk every one or so turns is the threads re-aligning...now that would suck...and if that happened...then I'm sorry
my brother tightened his a full turn...before he realized he was going the wrong way...I just shook my head |
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| Mark Henry |
Oct 2 2006, 04:36 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
If that assembly is pooched you may have to replace the filter mount, you are by-passing the filter altogether!
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| Mark Henry |
Oct 2 2006, 04:53 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
You might be able to replace the spring, ball and insert and peen the the insert in place. Or you have to replace the whole filter adaptor. Never seen one fall apart, check for damage.
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| jd66921 |
Oct 2 2006, 04:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394 |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Oct 2 2006, 03:36 PM) If that assembly is pooched you may have to replace the filter mount, you are by-passing the filter altogether! Not sure if people are respnding to my last post. I reseated the relief valve by re-inserting the spring and ball, and then re-seated the cap with a socket and extension and a rubber mallet. It all looks right now, I have oil pressure and no oil leaks. Took 5 seconds to build oil pressure and turn off the oil warning light after I refilled everything and started it. Sure was a strange problem. I hope the relief valve stays in place! Thanks, Jeff |
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| Mark Henry |
Oct 2 2006, 05:04 PM
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that's what I do! Group: Members Posts: 20,065 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Port Hope, Ontario Member No.: 26 Region Association: Canada |
Did you peen the edge over a bit? If you just knocked it back in it may just pop back out again.
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| jd66921 |
Oct 2 2006, 06:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 9-January 06 From: Texas Member No.: 5,394 |
QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Oct 2 2006, 04:04 PM) Did you peen the edge over a bit? If you just knocked it back in it may just pop back out again. The "seat" thing was tapered, and seemed to be a tight fit as I tapped it back in. I had to hit it pretty hard with the rubber mallet to get it all the way in. I guess w'll find out how well I got it in in a couple thousand miles! I will change the oil early the next time to make sure the thing is right. |
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