Will 951/944 turbo calipers fit under 15" fuchs?, Lets make an adapter to make them fit :) |
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Will 951/944 turbo calipers fit under 15" fuchs?, Lets make an adapter to make them fit :) |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 4 2006, 12:34 PM
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Just an update... The welding on the rear trailing arm ends up with the tab farther inboard. So when you weld it on, it attaches behind the factory weld where the bearing carrier attaches to the trailing arm. You end up not welding the cast iron, but the steel behind the bearing carrier.
And I looked at the adapter thing, the mounting tab will not allow enough clearance to clear the bottom edges of the pads with an adapter plate, front or rear. Even the monoblocks with the adapter blocks have to have the inboard pad milled off slightly to clear the factory 914 caliper mount. |
Matt Romanowski |
Oct 4 2006, 02:32 PM
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I think Clay is right about the welding. I can take a look at my car tonight when I swap wheels around.
Either way, if it is cast *iron* it is harder to do than just being cast steel. I can't imagine they used regular cast iron. With the way people describe hammering on wheel bearings..... |
Mueller |
Oct 4 2006, 02:55 PM
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I think Clay is right about the welding. I can take a look at my car tonight when I swap wheels around. Either way, if it is cast *iron* it is harder to do than just being cast steel. I can't imagine they used regular cast iron. With the way people describe hammering on wheel bearings..... I really think it's cast steel, not your typical cast gray iron like the brake rotors... |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 4 2006, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE No, the 15" wheels will not fit over the calipers. The 16" wheels are a tight fit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) Been running them under 15x6 Fuchs on a 3.0 powered 914 for 5-6 years now. Started with Carrera Bilstein struts. Re-drilled the calipers and ran a Carrera 24mm rotor. B I know for sure Clay is right about 944/T brakes not fitting a 15" wheel. I have a buddy that does this mod for bugs all the time. Clay is also right on about the monoblocks. My buddy...His name is Lanner, brake conversions are about all he does. http://www.vdubengineering.com/ brad says they fit. (has proof?) Boxster monoblocks are like WAY bigger.. and they fit (under FUCHS and COOKIES) The adapter will reclock it a few degrees and will offset the mounting holes inward to sit deeper on the rotor, and clear the rim.... |
Eric_Shea |
Oct 4 2006, 03:57 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE The adapter will reclock it a few degrees and will offset the mounting holes inward to sit deeper on the rotor, and clear the rim.... How does you knowz without a caliper in yur hand? They can only sit down so far before the rotor rubs on the inside of the caliper. You could then mill the rotor but... |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 5 2006, 11:31 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,416 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
QUOTE No, the 15" wheels will not fit over the calipers. The 16" wheels are a tight fit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bs.gif) Been running them under 15x6 Fuchs on a 3.0 powered 914 for 5-6 years now. Started with Carrera Bilstein struts. Re-drilled the calipers and ran a Carrera 24mm rotor. B I know for sure Clay is right about 944/T brakes not fitting a 15" wheel. I have a buddy that does this mod for bugs all the time. Clay is also right on about the monoblocks. My buddy...His name is Lanner, brake conversions are about all he does. http://www.vdubengineering.com/ brad says they fit. (has proof?) Boxster monoblocks are like WAY bigger.. and they fit (under FUCHS and COOKIES) The adapter will reclock it a few degrees and will offset the mounting holes inward to sit deeper on the rotor, and clear the rim.... Get out your grinder when you go to fit the pads. They WILL hit the mounting tabs for the 3" mount on the spindle. BTDT.... |
Series9 |
Oct 5 2006, 11:58 AM
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ClayPerrine |
Oct 5 2006, 12:14 PM
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Trailing arm with modified mounting tab for 944 turbo calipers.
BEEFY! |
Eric_Shea |
Oct 5 2006, 01:47 PM
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I like that...
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Aaron Cox |
Oct 5 2006, 01:56 PM
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:drool: 930 calipers! |
Elliot_Cannon |
Oct 5 2006, 02:47 PM
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I didn't think Aarons car went fast enough to need bigger brakes?
Elliot |
ClayPerrine |
Oct 5 2006, 02:52 PM
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I didn't think Aarons car went fast enough to need bigger brakes? Elliot When the driver looks like this.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1143-1146284565.jpg) You REALLY want him to have good brakes...... |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 5 2006, 03:13 PM
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alright clay...go home to midgetville.....
lets keep it on topic LOL |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 5 2006, 03:16 PM
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ClayPerrine |
Oct 5 2006, 06:56 PM
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alright clay...go home to midgetville..... lets keep it on topic LOL You are NEVER going to live down that picture..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dead horse.gif) On topic.. Wes Hildreth and I had this discussion before I put the 944 calipers on my car. He told me the same thing I told you.. and I said exactly what you are saying. Guess what... Wes was right... Because he had BTDT. I was looking at your drawing... with the adapter on the front, you are going to need to put a hump in the middle of the inboard pad, and also you are going to have to be really careful the rotor clears the adapter bracket. To get the caliper centered over the rotor, you are going to have to make the bracket look something like this... ___ __________ ______ _________ Otherwise it's not going to center up. BTW.. It's easier to buy 3.5" bolt spacing struts and install them to put the calipers directly on the mounting points.... Why reinvent the wheel???????? |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 5 2006, 07:22 PM
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"why reinvent the wheel" you ask?
Pride i guess. brad says yeamans car has em on there and runs 15x6" fuchs.... so it can be done. i may end up with boxsters instead (known to fit under 15) but will probably do this too LOL Eric is going to mock it up soon |
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