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| nine14cats |
 Oct 9 2006, 04:12 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo  Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Oct 9 2006, 02:13 PM)  Bill, How is the "build" team coming? Actually more like the "R&R" team (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Build team is confirmed for October 21st / 22nd: Bill P. Randal Brad SirAndy McMark Dan Outline of activities: Fri Oct 20th - Boxster has windshield removed Sat Oct 21st - R&R shocks, springs, brake discs, pads, fr and rr swaybars Sun Oct 22nd - Gut entire car of everything not needed (upholstery, seats, etc.) Mon Oct 23rd - Drop car at TonyC for custom cage install Thu Oct 26th - Pick up car from TonyC Fri Oct 27th - AM = reinstall windshield, PM = alignment and corner balance Sat Oct 28th - GGR AX#9 Sun Nov 12th - Track test day @ Sears I'll be sending out PM's and e-mail's to the build team once I have confirmation of Brad's flight. It should be sometime tonight or tomorrow at latest. Thanks! Bill P. |
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| nine14cats |
Oct 9 2006, 04:20 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 9 2006, 02:26 PM) My flight is booked..LOL QUOTE Install B&M short shifter Um.. you might want to send that back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alfred.gif) NO factory race car comes with it.. and many many Boxster shops will tell you that it causes premature wear on the tranny. You know momentum cars. That short shift doesnt help in any form or fashion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I used two gears at Buttonwillow... 3rd+4th..lol NOW.. a longer stick would be better!! Are we doing the steering wheel and quick release? B Ok...so I have confirmation.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Hmmm....I like the feel of a shorty.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) oops another story there... I forgot about a quick release...yep, we should do that too....I think TonyC is making one for the Boxster/996 cars. And so does Sparco. And I do want to bolt in the seats and rails. Sheeeet....more ordering to do. If we have one guy at each corner, how long to swap out suspension? How long to gut the car? Bill P. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 04:33 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I bought the Sparco complete package for the Boxster remavble wheel. Sparco has a perfect knock-off of the GT3Cup steering wheel. It is deep dish with the yellow stripe.
My thoughts: The rear suspension requires removal of certain pieces of interior. I suggest we start on the interior Friday night when I arrive and get out the important/in the way pieces. I honestly beleive that we will see 90% of this done Sat. depending on what how hard you want to work Sat. Yes. At least one seat needs to be in it for the cage. The stockers wont cut it. Make sure you order the adjuster rails also and not just the seat mounts. The sliders bolt onto the stock chassis location, and the side mounts bolt to the Sparco/MOMO sliders. It will take about 3 hours on all the interior. The heater core and AC will take the longest. It takes 30min to pull the AC compressor and install the new NON-AC belt (did you order it? I have one if need be) It takes 20-30 to pull the front bumper (may want to do this later) B |
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| nine14cats |
Oct 9 2006, 04:40 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 9 2006, 03:33 PM) I bought the Sparco complete package for the Boxster remavble wheel. Sparco has a perfect knock-off of the GT3Cup steering wheel. It is deep dish with the yellow stripe. My thoughts: The rear suspension requires removal of certain pieces of interior. I suggest we start on the interior Friday night when I arrive and get out the important/in the way pieces. I honestly beleive that we will see 90% of this done Sat. depending on what how hard you want to work Sat. Yes. At least one seat needs to be in it for the cage. The stockers wont cut it. Make sure you order the adjuster rails also and not just the seat mounts. The sliders bolt onto the stock chassis location, and the side mounts bolt to the Sparco/MOMO sliders. It will take about 3 hours on all the interior. The heater core and AC will take the longest. It takes 30min to pull the AC compressor and install the new NON-AC belt (did you order it? I have one if need be) It takes 20-30 to pull the front bumper (may want to do this later) B I'll order the non AC belt tomorrow. I'll let you know if I'll need yours or not depending upon delivery time. I'll also order the seat rails. I'm okay with working on it Friday night if you are. I don't sleep, remember? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) What time do you want the build team available on Sat? We can start working on logistics. Bill P. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 04:56 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Let's say 9am on Sat. morning. You and I will get the car "prepared" Friday night.
I'm not going to be shy here: I'm a little concerned with the number of people. It will go slower with more people than it would with less. We dont have 4 tool boxes to pull tools from. Just a thought. I also dont want people to feel "left out". I'll stick my head down and grind it out, but I dont want to be waiting on tools. We need to print off/locate the torque values for ALL the suspension prior to my arrival and have several copies taped to the car. This is VERY important. I also will need several RED paint markers.. NOT Sharpies. These come from craft stores like "Michaels". We will "mark" every nut/bolt that is torqued during re-assembly. This will ensure that nothing is missed. I suggest your alignment shop use a DIFFERENT color when they make the changes.. so you know THEY torqued everything. I can get the car VERY close with a tape measure and a camber gauge. B |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 04:58 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Not sure which belts your are going to order, but.. get them ordered. You dont want to be crawling all over the cage drilling holes for the crotch strap pickup point of trying to screw in the eye bolts over the side bars.
Worst case scenerio.. get the eye bolts. They are the same one we use in the 914's. B |
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| Jeroen |
Oct 9 2006, 05:06 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 10 2006, 12:33 AM) I bought the Sparco complete package for the Boxster remavble wheel. Sparco has a perfect knock-off of the GT3Cup steering wheel. It is deep dish with the yellow stripe. With the risc of being anal... GT3 racers have a Momo Mod07 wheel (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.momousa.com/images/views/r1905.jpg) not a sparco (IMG:http://rallynuts.com/bin/products/015R345MSN.jpg) |
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| nine14cats |
Oct 9 2006, 06:09 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Jeroen,
What is the MOMO part number? Is there a hub adapter for the MOMO as well? Thanks! Bill P. |
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| nine14cats |
Oct 9 2006, 06:12 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 9 2006, 03:58 PM) Not sure which belts your are going to order, but.. get them ordered. You dont want to be crawling all over the cage drilling holes for the crotch strap pickup point of trying to screw in the eye bolts over the side bars. Worst case scenerio.. get the eye bolts. They are the same one we use in the 914's. B Belts are on order and will be here with hardware. Bill P. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 06:14 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
We like the Sparco because we can drill the hole for the "push to talk" button in the solid spokes. The MOMO holes are two big for the button.
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| nine14cats |
Oct 9 2006, 06:17 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 9 2006, 03:56 PM) Let's say 9am on Sat. morning. You and I will get the car "prepared" Friday night. I'm not going to be shy here: I'm a little concerned with the number of people. It will go slower with more people than it would with less. We dont have 4 tool boxes to pull tools from. Just a thought. I also dont want people to feel "left out". I'll stick my head down and grind it out, but I dont want to be waiting on tools. We need to print off/locate the torque values for ALL the suspension prior to my arrival and have several copies taped to the car. This is VERY important. I also will need several RED paint markers.. NOT Sharpies. These come from craft stores like "Michaels". We will "mark" every nut/bolt that is torqued during re-assembly. This will ensure that nothing is missed. I suggest your alignment shop use a DIFFERENT color when they make the changes.. so you know THEY torqued everything. I can get the car VERY close with a tape measure and a camber gauge. B I have 2 full sets of tools in 2 different tool boxes. I also have two sets of air tools and 2 compressors. I got tired of lugging everything back and forth between the garage and trailer, so I have 2 sets..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) I took into account that not everyone may stay the entire day Sat or Sun. Would you prefer we cut back on the help? Part of it was to be able to make tracks on the car while still getting the gang together...any excuse to have fun.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Let me know... Bill P. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 06:18 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
The sub strap can be difficult to install because of all the sheet metal coming together under the tub. I'll show you how I did it.
Make sure you also have the cotter pins for the belts also. The belts wont be in the car for the cage/scab plates. We just need to get all the hardware in place so you can clip them in. You did buy "clip-ins" correct?? I buy pull up to tighten bottoms and pull down to tighten shoulder straps with clip in lap belts and clip in sub straps. The shoulder harness pieces are "loop through" I spent the big bucks and bought Scroth. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! I had always thought "there is no difference...LOL" Yeah.. right.. B |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 06:21 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I'm ok with it Bill. I thought more about it. I want some of the 914 people to see/learn this stuff also. I dont know it all, but I have seen it/dealt with it more than most. The tool issue was my number one concern.
Make sure you have some 18mm wrenches/sockets. Some sets dont come with it. B |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 06:23 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Fire bottle:
I mount it right between the seats on the center tunnel. VERY EASY to access and it works as an arm rest while you are sitting on grid..LOL I forget what size, but they typically run $30 or so. B |
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| Trekkor |
Oct 9 2006, 06:24 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Will the build team make it to Sears for the send off on the 12th?
I'll get to chase you around the track myself. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Jumpy.gif) KT |
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| nine14cats |
Oct 9 2006, 06:27 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 9 2006, 05:18 PM) The sub strap can be difficult to install because of all the sheet metal coming together under the tub. I'll show you how I did it. Make sure you also have the cotter pins for the belts also. The belts wont be in the car for the cage/scab plates. We just need to get all the hardware in place so you can clip them in. You did buy "clip-ins" correct?? I buy pull up to tighten bottoms and pull down to tighten shoulder straps with clip in lap belts and clip in sub straps. The shoulder harness pieces are "loop through" I spent the big bucks and bought Scroth. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! I had always thought "there is no difference...LOL" Yeah.. right.. B I have Schroth in the 911 and Teamtech's in the 914. The Teamtech's have a nice chest pad but it's a tad cumbersome to fit with a two driver car with a moveable drivers seat. The Schroth's are nice in the 911 since they fit nicely and are comfortable but also can be adjusted for 2 drivers. I went with Schroth's again. I'm glad you reminded me about the cotter pins. They don't come with the hardware. And yes, I got clip ins for the lap belts and sub straps. And I got loop throughs for the shoulder harnesses. Bill P. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 06:28 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I'm trying to figure out a way to attend his first event in the car (AutoX or track) I need to come back up again before the end of the month to move some stuff from yet another storage unit (house stuff that Lyressa is giving me..back..LOL)
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| Jeroen |
Oct 9 2006, 06:28 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
I don't have a part#
it's called a "mod 07" the bolt circle for Sparco, Momo and OMP wheels/hubs are the same (interchangeble) so getting a hub adapter (and a quick release) shouldn't be an issue you can get them online here: http://www.ltbmotorsports.com but both the wheel and the hub adapter should be available at most any motorsport shop, so look around for prices... |
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| nine14cats |
Oct 9 2006, 06:29 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 9 2006, 05:23 PM) Fire bottle: I mount it right between the seats on the center tunnel. VERY EASY to access and it works as an arm rest while you are sitting on grid..LOL I forget what size, but they typically run $30 or so. B I have a HALON in car system for the Boxster. Bill P. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Oct 9 2006, 06:30 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Please tell me you also ordered them "Hans" compatible? They come with the 2inch upper straps instead of the 3 inch (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Sorry. I ordered/worked on/buil so many GT3's and Boxsters at MOM.. all of this feels routine..LOL B |
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