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> Motor choices..., Too many options!!
rtalich
post Oct 12 2006, 08:55 PM
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So far I've seen/heard/read about the 2056 and 2270 type 4 motors. What about the 2165? What bore/stroke combo would this be?
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post Oct 12 2006, 08:56 PM
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post Oct 12 2006, 09:02 PM
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lets back up...what motor do you have now?
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post Oct 12 2006, 09:02 PM
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what abotu the 1911..?
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post Oct 12 2006, 09:04 PM
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Britt were on the same wavelengh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Ive been driving mine the last couple of days and
I must say...SWEET!
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post Oct 12 2006, 09:09 PM
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post Oct 12 2006, 09:22 PM
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I'm pretty sure a 2165 is a Type I engine. Here's a chart of Torque curves I've made for a tired 2L, stock 2L, 2056, and 2270. The 2056 is nice bump but the 2270 is in a whole other league.


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post Oct 12 2006, 09:32 PM
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My preference is the 1991.
This is at 5000ft altitude, and 104 degree's F.
If it were adjusted to flywheel and altitude/temp... I'm thinking around 175HP


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post Oct 12 2006, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Oct 12 2006, 08:37 PM) *

which car is that from brant?


orange car..
the only one I've ever had on a dyno
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post Oct 12 2006, 09:45 PM
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but that's a 6.
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post Oct 12 2006, 09:47 PM
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Rich, you and me were on the same wavelength?

1911 is one torquey beast from what i hear.
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post Oct 12 2006, 10:01 PM
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In the future... We'll all have SIXES
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post Oct 13 2006, 06:49 AM
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but that's a 6.


but Will's started it.
he said 3.2

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post Oct 13 2006, 08:13 AM
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Rob has a 2.0L....

2056 is a nice bump in hp/torque and won't break the bank, figure 'bout 110-115hp
won't break your wallet either- $3500/5000

2270 is a big jump somewhere in the 130 to 170 hp range depending on the combo and starts at 'bout $5k

1911 is a cheap ass motor that whimps run when they don't have any money.

you can do a six for less than $5k if you steal half the parts at night off parked 911's
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post Oct 13 2006, 08:30 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif) Hey Geoff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif)
Britt not so much. Short stroke + big bore = rev'er
Having both the 2.0 has more torque
Dont get me wrong still a good combo!
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post Oct 13 2006, 09:19 AM
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Suby, Suby, Suby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

But i think i want my next car to be a V8 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)
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post Oct 13 2006, 09:45 AM
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To actually answer your question it looks like a 2165 would be a 94x78 so a stroked 2.0 liter. I haven't heard of one before. It should have good torque. Why not go to a 2176 with a 78.4 stroke? I assume you are going to try and save $$$ by reusing the 94mm p&c.

Mostly you hear of 2056 and 2270 which are 96 bore and 71mm (stock2.0) or 78.4 stroke respectively.

You can find different combinations you could make here: Type IV Engine Displacement Bore vs. Stroke
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post Oct 13 2006, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Oct 12 2006, 09:01 PM) *

In the future... We'll all have SIXES

.....Assimilate.

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post Oct 13 2006, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(grantsfo @ Oct 13 2006, 09:11 AM) *

QUOTE(trekkor @ Oct 12 2006, 09:01 PM) *

In the future... We'll all have SIXES

.....Assimilate.




I have a big six ... in my 911. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Oct 13 2006, 10:21 AM
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Here's my opinion on motors.

The problem is the F.I. system & electrical systems on a 30-year plus car. If someone would repo a replacement (reasonable) F.I. system for our 4-cyl motor no one would be talking about replacing type-!V motor's. Of course many would still do 6's & Stuby's. etc, but the real problem is the electrical system & F.I. system. Replacement parts are getting scarce & that's the reason many look at alternate(modern/new) power plants. I would like to have a 6-cyl, chevy V/8 or Stuby motor, but it's not practical $$ wise.

Find a reasonable $$ new replacement F.I. sytems for our stock motors and many will stay with their stock motor. I'll keep looking at Raby's motor's & hope someone comes out with a new (repo) Type-4 replacement F.I. System to fit my motor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Read the tea leaves, Raby motor's will be the choice (best dollar value) motor for the future value of 914's. Raby motor's are the only real current choice. He has a lock on the market (don't tell him) with all his available upgrades & improvements. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) It's a good value.

Tom
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