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Elliot_Cannon
post Oct 15 2006, 10:36 PM
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Jury duty tomorrow morning 07:45. So when the judge asks, "is there any reason you should be excused from serving on this jury?" I say...? Any ideas?
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post Oct 16 2006, 05:14 PM
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Well, I'm serving right now (not at this very moment, but you know what I mean.)

In San Diego Court the initial jury pool is chosen randomly by computer, as are the folks chosen to fill seats after people are excused.

The trial is tedious and the words "sense of urgency" is lost on the process. As they say, the wheels of Justice grind slowly, very slowly.

Having said that, I'm willing to serve and do it with all the seriousness it deserves. It is one of the things we need to do to earn the right to live and breathe in a somewhat, kinda, mostly free country.

Also, I neglected to show up the last time I got a summons (just spaced it. Had the day free and everything) and was nailed with a $200 fine. I wouldn't advise just "skipping it."
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post Oct 16 2006, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(smontanaro @ Oct 16 2006, 09:27 AM) *

QUOTE(spare time toys @ Oct 16 2006, 09:07 AM) *

get in the middle of the pack when they let you in. Every time I go thats what I do. When they choose they start taking from #1 and may skip 1 or 2 folks but I have never seen them make it past #18.


You've apparently never had jury duty in a large metro courthouse. At least in Chicago, selection for jury candidates for a given case is all done randomly.

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Nope just in this podunk town called DALLAS TX (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) I have been called in at least a dozen times and served on 2 jurries (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flag.gif)
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post Oct 16 2006, 07:00 PM
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What else do you have to do Elliot....

You're RETARDED...errr Retired, well maybe both (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 16 2006, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(Crazyhippy @ Oct 16 2006, 06:00 PM) *

What else do you have to do Elliot....

You're RETARDED...errr Retired, well maybe both (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Oct 16 2006, 07:12 PM
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post Oct 16 2006, 07:23 PM
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hahahahha!!!!

+1 matt....



BTW - why do they swab the guys arm prior to lethal injection? last second infection or what?
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post Oct 16 2006, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Oct 16 2006, 06:23 PM) *
hahahahha!!!!

+1 matt....



BTW - why do they swab the guys arm prior to lethal injection? last second infection or what?

I have always wondered that as well... Why not stick 'em with the dirtiest, rustiest AIDS-infected used needle from a coke whore?
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post Oct 16 2006, 07:50 PM
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post Oct 16 2006, 07:58 PM
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They also have braille writing on drive up atm's.
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post Oct 16 2006, 08:01 PM
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You can always try the old " I have a medical condition " reason if you want to get out of the jury duty gig . Get a Dr.'s written excuse .

But then again, it's like voting . If you don't vote don't bitch about the outcome . So if you don't participate at least once in the legal/court jury system , then you can't gripe about how how jurys screw things up .
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post Oct 16 2006, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(Headrage @ Oct 16 2006, 08:58 PM) *

They also have braille writing on drive up atm's.



And those same ATMs have CRT screens that blind people can't read anyway...


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post Oct 16 2006, 10:02 PM
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I would wear a fresh set of Depends, have a good book along with a six pack of coke and a hip flask.....I be fine....as long as the flask is big enuff....I can alwyas get more coke and re-read the book.....but that flask needs to be big...or have a couple of re-fills...

Fuckem...he's guilty.....big tits....maybe guilty....my ex wife....def-guilty....my momz....have to listen harder to the evidence....Jim Tab....GUILTY......
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post Oct 17 2006, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(Headrage @ Oct 16 2006, 06:58 PM) *

They also have braille writing on drive up atm's.

I think I drive to work with those guys....oh and Z...bite me...were all guilty...now if only we were all HUNG!!! Ha! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 18 2006, 07:10 AM
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now if only we were all HUNG!!! Ha! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



You mean everyone is NOT??

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post Oct 18 2006, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(Howard @ Oct 16 2006, 09:50 PM) *

Kamikaze pilots wore helmets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


But Roethlisberger didn't.




Oh yes. I went there.
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post Oct 18 2006, 11:20 AM
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I don't know if it could be called good or bad. A couple of things come immediately to mind:
  • You really don't want to be a poor person in the grips of our criminal justice system
  • No way in hell does all the evidence get presented (much of it is suppressed beforehand)


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The case that I was a jurer for, the defendant was charged with 12 counts of armed bank robbery. The jury consisted of two men, the forman and myself, and ten women. After hearing the "evidence", we took an informal poll to see how people felt; 2 not guilty [us guys] and 10 guilty [the women]. We each expressed why we voted as we did. Now this gets scary. Image you are the defendant, and people deciding your fate think you are guilty because:

The police don't arrest innocent people

You had $400 in you pocket when stopped by the police

You look quilty

Sick and tired of people getting away with crimes. Someone has to pay and it might as well be you.

The police found a pair of Hush Puppy shoes in your closet, it doesn't matter that they do not match those in the picture from the bank's survelliance cameras.

It took the two of us fthree days to convince these women that the evidence was crap. A photo of the "suspect' was taken in January, in Wisconsin, shows someone wearing a down hooded parka, a ski mask and gloves. All you could see were lips and eyeballs. Piss poor evidence.

One more point. The defendant was in fact an FBI informant who actually called the FBI and local police to stake out the bank in question. The other robbers cut a deal with the DA saying that he was the brains behind the robberies.

Based on this experience, I would ask for a jugde to hear my case if I was ever taken to trial. At least he/she would have some intelligence.
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post Oct 18 2006, 12:57 PM
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my B-law professor told horror stories like that from when he was in criminal practice...
he siad the most basic questions were the ones he base his jury picks on... he said when asked "do you believe this person is guilty, and that's why he was arrested?" about 1/2 the room would say "yes": that eliminated 1/2 of the room right there... since they don't even understand the basis of our judical system: innocent until PROVEN guilty... he said after that he was ask a few more questions pertaining to basic law knowledge, and would usually only be left with a handful of people who could even possibly be considered...

scary to think about...
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post Oct 18 2006, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Oct 15 2006, 09:36 PM) *

Jury duty tomorrow morning 07:45. So when the judge asks, "is there any reason you should be excused from serving on this jury?" I say...?


i would actually have liked to do jury duty.

i got a letter two weeks ago, but unfortunately, i'm not a US citizen, so i'm not eligible ...
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QUOTE(Twystd1 @ Oct 15 2006, 10:24 PM) *

You have a opportunity to exonerate the innocent.

And an opportunity to hold someone accountable.

In this day and age. Thats a rare opportunity.

C

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I have only been summoned twice, niether time have I even made the selelction process. 1st, as a student, I was on break when summoned, and as a result did not even know about it untill it was too late. The second time, I already had travel plans that would have interefered, and was excused. I would like the privilege of serving. [having said that, I'll probably find a summons in the mail tonight when I get home...]

I do know that scientists and engineers are often excused by the lawyer that has the weakest case. Empirically oriented people tend to focus more on the hard evidence than the emotional issues involved. Makes it harder to sway by emotional or irrational arguments. I had a friend that was excused because he was asked if he knew how a breathalyzer works and after his response, the lawyer figured he probably knew more about it than the "expert" that was going to testify...

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post Oct 18 2006, 06:07 PM
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Just do it - it's a great experience. Been there, done that on a jury.

Next time though, reschuedle for a friday or Monday. On Monday's the case loads are low as a lot of cases get plea barganed on Friday so, most of the time- your excused- done for at least a year.

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