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| Type 4 Unleashed |
 Oct 18 2006, 12:19 AM
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CREATIVE TYPE lV ENGINEERING  Group: Retired Members Posts: 787 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Aliso Viejo, ca Member No.: 2,231 Region Association: None  |
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| Mueller |
Oct 18 2006, 12:30 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None 
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got some flow data?
they look nice.... |
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| Mueller |
Oct 18 2006, 12:37 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(bd1308 @ Oct 17 2006, 11:32 PM)  2.0 bus castings.... and your point is??? you say that like it;s a bad thing, they are obviously not stock... plug between the valves and almost on same plane other than that, sweet! |
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| Mueller |
Oct 18 2006, 12:57 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(bd1308 @ Oct 17 2006, 11:39 PM) Why not change the plug angle, seems like cheapish power to me well, for one thing it's at least $300 just for that mod.... |
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| bd1308 |
Oct 18 2006, 01:01 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
I was just wondering....
if nobody ever wondered, we'd all be driving watercooled cars. |
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| Twystd1 |
Oct 18 2006, 01:19 AM
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You don't want to know... really..... Group: Members Posts: 2,514 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Newport Beach, California Member No.: 2,743 |
Britt....
Sometimes.... Your youngness... And arrogance.... Gets in the way of you learning.... I know.... I was you once.... Clayton |
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| Gint |
Oct 18 2006, 06:08 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE(bd1308 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:01 AM) I was just wondering.... if nobody ever wondered, we'd all be driving watercooled cars. If you're wondering and not actually knowing, it's a better general idea to state things in the form of a question. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| rhodyguy |
Oct 18 2006, 08:32 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,082 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
paper beats rock. quote beats delete. busted.
k |
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| Bleyseng |
Oct 18 2006, 09:41 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 17 2006, 11:57 PM) QUOTE(bd1308 @ Oct 17 2006, 11:39 PM) Why not change the plug angle, seems like cheapish power to me well, for one thing it's at least $300 just for that mod.... I'm with Britt. Ya should have stepped up to the plate and done the mod instead of going halfway with these heads. Unless you are going to use them on a bus? I like hp and more is mo'better. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) |
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| Mueller |
Oct 18 2006, 09:53 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Oct 18 2006, 08:41 AM) QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 17 2006, 11:57 PM) QUOTE(bd1308 @ Oct 17 2006, 11:39 PM) Why not change the plug angle, seems like cheapish power to me well, for one thing it's at least $300 just for that mod.... I'm with Britt. Ya should have stepped up to the plate and done the mod instead of going halfway with these heads. Unless you are going to use them on a bus? It's called "feature creep", sooner or later one must decide when to stop with upgrades/modifications, it's easy for you and Britt to critic when you 2 are not paying the bills (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) |
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| Bleyseng |
Oct 18 2006, 10:05 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hey, if you are gonna play ya gotta pay!
first off they are bus heads so they have small chambers which is good for compression but need alittle help. Looks like bigger valves but still could use more help with the plug mod-relocating and usingthe smaller plug. if its just all done on the cheap "to git her runnin" on no money fine. People just need to know the options given how many read/look at the threads. I don't like using ole bus heads for anything 'cept door stops. |
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| anthony |
Oct 18 2006, 10:11 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
I'm still wondering who Leo is. Posting pics with no info just leaves people guessing and speculating.
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| bd1308 |
Oct 18 2006, 10:21 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
I agree Geoff, but it seems like my opinion is worthless.
Would have been much better off with a 1.8L t4 head. |
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| Mueller |
Oct 18 2006, 10:23 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Oct 18 2006, 09:05 AM) Hey, if you are gonna play ya gotta pay! first off they are bus heads so they have small chambers which is good for compression but need alittle help. Looks like bigger valves but still could use more help with the plug mod-relocating and usingthe smaller plug. if its just all done on the cheap "to git her runnin" on no money fine. "git 'er done" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) People just need to know the options given how many read/look at the threads. I don't like using ole bus heads for anything 'cept door stops. And there lies a problem, yes, these are based on bus heads, but after these mods, are they really still those terrible as you say "bus" heads....you might as well say the same thing about those new castings that Jake and Len use (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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| nycchef |
Oct 18 2006, 10:25 AM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(anthony @ Oct 18 2006, 08:11 AM) I'm still wondering who Leo is. Posting pics with no info just leaves people guessing and speculating. leo imperial? |
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| Matt Romanowski |
Oct 18 2006, 10:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 878 Joined: 4-January 04 From: Manchester, NH Member No.: 1,507 |
Interesting reading since half the thread is missing.
It's always easy to spend other peoples money on stuff.... For real content - The intake gaskets are going to be really thin at about 4 o'clock in the picture. My heads are the same way. I'm always worried that it will develop intake leaks there, although it never has. Has anyone ever had problems with intake leaks there??? |
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| Aaron Cox |
Oct 18 2006, 10:28 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(bd1308 @ Oct 18 2006, 09:21 AM) I agree Geoff, but it seems like my opinion is worthless. Would have been much better off with a 1.8L t4 head. www.brittstypeIVhaus.com be humble and you will learn.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| bd1308 |
Oct 18 2006, 10:36 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
Humble only works to a certain point, then you get real damn tired of being chewed out for asking if a seller has papers to verify a rebuilt carb and engine.
Whatever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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| Bleyseng |
Oct 18 2006, 11:03 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 18 2006, 09:23 AM) QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Oct 18 2006, 09:05 AM) Hey, if you are gonna play ya gotta pay! first off they are bus heads so they have small chambers which is good for compression but need alittle help. Looks like bigger valves but still could use more help with the plug mod-relocating and usingthe smaller plug. if its just all done on the cheap "to git her runnin" on no money fine. "git 'er done" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) People just need to know the options given how many read/look at the threads. I don't like using ole bus heads for anything 'cept door stops. And there lies a problem, yes, these are based on bus heads, but after these mods, are they really still those terrible as you say "bus" heads....you might as well say the same thing about those new castings that Jake and Len use (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Its not the castings but the fact that these are 30 yr old heads that have been cooked by pushing around a bus! Aluminum is aluminum and I don't want for my heads crappy cooked heat cycled heads as its a waste of money. You guys are always talking about spending money, well why start off using a turd for no matter how much money you spend its still a turd IMHO. Its fine to be cheap but heads are the weak point in aircooled motors. Start off with a new casting or atleast the 914 1.7/1.8 heads as they weren't cooked to death by being in a bus. |
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| Mueller |
Oct 18 2006, 11:09 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Oct 18 2006, 10:03 AM) QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 18 2006, 09:23 AM) QUOTE(Bleyseng @ Oct 18 2006, 09:05 AM) Hey, if you are gonna play ya gotta pay! first off they are bus heads so they have small chambers which is good for compression but need alittle help. Looks like bigger valves but still could use more help with the plug mod-relocating and usingthe smaller plug. if its just all done on the cheap "to git her runnin" on no money fine. "git 'er done" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) People just need to know the options given how many read/look at the threads. I don't like using ole bus heads for anything 'cept door stops. And there lies a problem, yes, these are based on bus heads, but after these mods, are they really still those terrible as you say "bus" heads....you might as well say the same thing about those new castings that Jake and Len use (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Its not the castings but the fact that these are 30 yr old heads that have been cooked by pushing around a bus! Aluminum is aluminum and I don't want for my heads crappy cooked heat cycled heads as its a waste of money. You guys are always talking about spending money, well why start off using a turd for no matter how much money you spend its still a turd IMHO. Its fine to be cheap but heads are the weak point in aircooled motors. Start off with a new casting or atleast the 914 1.7/1.8 heads as they weren't cooked to death by being in a bus. that is a generalization, who knows, maybe these had very low miles, obviously they are not "junk" since he was able to work with them. I totally see Jakes reason for not wanting to use bus heads, but you and expert Britt make all used bus heads to be worse than the plague. |
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