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> Lets talk BIG front brakes., Need your wisdom and experience.
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post Oct 18 2006, 04:24 PM
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I have BMW 320i front breaks and was wondering if they bolt straight to the back break location. If I wanted to remove my Pvalve and use Eric's T, is there a front break that can handle the setup as mentioned. What would be a close second, with an after market adjustable Pvalve, if the rears hava to a mucha MMMMMMMACHIZMOoooo!

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post Oct 18 2006, 04:30 PM
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tough Break....

ha... made myself laugh.

big brakes are mostly extra weight.
if you don't have big HP then you don't need big brakes.
the racers will tell you; "all they do it make you slower"

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post Oct 18 2006, 04:32 PM
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Brant beat me to it...

The question is "why do you need BIG brakes?". Unless you've got big power, and are running hard at a track, big brakes do little more than add weight.

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post Oct 18 2006, 04:42 PM
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You fellas don't miss a freeking detail, I love it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Lets just say, big engine on the way, if I win this ebay thing I'm on right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

Just to share, I just found a three foot black snake in my bedroom like three minutes ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) He came from the hole from under the floor. Little bastid must be looking for a place to hybernate. Didn't jump on him since I didn't know if it was a coperhead until I switched the light on. Not good; specialy with the girls.
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post Oct 18 2006, 04:54 PM
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I helped you out a little bit..

I changed the title of your post. I didnt want people to think you could'nt speel.

Look for 6 piston Cayenne Turbo Calipers. They use the same pad as a 6 piston GT3 street car, but the caliper costs HALF what the GT3 caliper costs. It mounts just a tad different, but that doesnt matter, you'll need custom mounting anyway.


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post Oct 18 2006, 05:06 PM
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Thanks for the help with the not being able to spell thing being that I'm really not able tooo spell.LOL

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Cool info and wondered if it would all be cool with no booster and such. I don't know much about them setups. Way cool info by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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post Oct 18 2006, 05:33 PM
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Oh.. dont worry.. it will take both of your feet and the passengers feet to get it to stop..LOL

Honestly.. a 23mm would work fine.



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post Oct 18 2006, 05:40 PM
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Thanks and will look into it ASAP. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 18 2006, 05:53 PM
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Up to 250 HP with 911S brakes are fine. That is all the GT's used, and pretty much everything bigger just costs more. Might even slow you down also. However, if you are into the bling factor, just spend cubic dollars until you break.
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post Oct 18 2006, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Oct 19 2006, 12:54 AM) *

Look for 6 piston Cayenne Turbo Calipers. They use the same pad as a 6 piston GT3 street car, but the caliper costs HALF what the GT3 caliper costs

what you gonna do with brakes that big on a 914 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 18 2006, 06:12 PM
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post Oct 18 2006, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(davep @ Oct 18 2006, 07:53 PM) *

Up to 250 HP with 911S brakes are fine. That is all the GT's used, and pretty much everything bigger just costs more. Might even slow you down also. However, if you are into the bling factor, just spend cubic dollars until you break.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Cubic $$$ first until she don't strop fast enough.

I have 320s, SS break lines and 19mm MC and still isen't that impresive but stops alot faster than stock at like 75MPH. Schmit, stock was just down right scary at first.
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post Oct 18 2006, 06:39 PM
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I have 320s, SS break lines and 19mm MC and still isen't that impresive but stops alot faster than stock at like 75MPH.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Hmmmmmmmm, how so? If stock brakes can lock up the tires can someone explain how BMW brakes will stop it any faster with the same tires? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

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post Oct 18 2006, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(JPB @ Oct 18 2006, 03:42 PM) *

I just found a three foot black snake in my bedroom like three minutes ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) He came from the hole from under the floor.


Live in the country do we?
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post Oct 18 2006, 06:48 PM
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I would never dought you sir and hell, I never pushed them hard enough to locked them up!LOL On stock tires! LOL I never pushed hard enough? I like push until it fells kinds spongy and then hard and then stop pushing. Did I woos out on my foot preasure? Was I a manjina?

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post Oct 18 2006, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(Headrage @ Oct 18 2006, 08:44 PM) *

QUOTE(JPB @ Oct 18 2006, 03:42 PM) *

I just found a three foot black snake in my bedroom like three minutes ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) He came from the hole from under the floor.


Live in the country do we?


Yes and it's quiet and peaceful. I have mice in the fall/winter, lizards in the summer and now snakes before the cold weather. Last year, a friend stayed over and had the doors open as he slepped peacefully before I got home late one evening. When I went into the bathroom, there was a drowned opposum in the toilet.

:beer1:Lots of protein in these parts.
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If giant, mondo, stop the earth's rotation, Boing 707 disc brakes float your boat

than get them. I got the deal of a lifetime on Wilwood superlites(F) and 911T®

Calipers( Thanks Chris Julian), if this deal had not come about I would have been content with stock

binders. But sence they did.....

The Superlites are lighter than the stock cali's, how would that slow me down?

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post Oct 18 2006, 06:57 PM
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Correct! They would only slow you down if you used them.

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post Oct 18 2006, 07:06 PM
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Brant's only half right. Big horsepower isn't it.

If you can lock up your brakes with a stock setup, then your brakes are defeating the integral friction between the tires and the road. Bigger brakes don't help because they do the same. Get bigger tires. Then you may not be able to lock 'em up anymore. THEN get bigger brakes.

To get your stopping distance to a minimum, run the biggest goddamn tires you can pack in there, and get the SMALLEST brakes that you can lock up with. Remember that unsprung weight affects your tire-to-road stickiness. So lighter wheels too. Certain aero devices can assist.

Meanwhile. Putting the big tires and aero devices on affect your acceleration and top speed too. So then you need the big horsepower.

What it comes down to is that you'll have to compromise. And make very informed decisions.
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post Oct 18 2006, 07:08 PM
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