 Anyone ever install Eberspacher heater in 914?, OEM VW gas heater - freezin my ass off in MA!! |
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| william harris |
 Nov 3 2006, 08:26 AM
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914 Restorer  Group: Members Posts: 1,459 Joined: 9-January 04 From: Hamilton, MA Member No.: 1,539  |
I really don't want to put the teener away until the snow falls. But this morning had me wondering about installing the Eberspacher heater - they made a version for the type 4 motor and Ark Mirvis from the Samba has them available. Anybody ever do this? In case you are wondering, I have no heat, Evo Headers without any heater box - in my humble experience the heat from the heat exchangers was minimal at best. Ideas?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| JeffBowlsby |
Nov 3 2006, 08:33 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,492 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None 
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Actually the stock heating/defrost system is fantastic from my experience. Its important to have the heat duct gaskets in place and the auxiliary fan, but there is enough heat to cook an egg in the cabin. With headers I guess you are SOL.
Webasto also made a gas heater for the 914, but I have never seen one other than these photos, from SirAndy: Attached image(s)   
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| william harris |
Nov 3 2006, 08:41 AM
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914 Restorer Group: Members Posts: 1,459 Joined: 9-January 04 From: Hamilton, MA Member No.: 1,539 |
Hey Jeff: It was in the 20s in MA this morning. You guys in CA have no idea what real cold is. My neighbor was scraping the ice off his windshield when I pulled out of the garage. Yeah, the pursuit of HP lead to the decision to go with headers, although Chris does offer his own version of a heater box. Want a laugh, I have heating clothing for my Beemer - Gerbings heated vest and gloves and an adapter to plug them into the cig lighter. Toasty for me, the passenger will freeze - but to hell with them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
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| JeffBowlsby |
Nov 3 2006, 08:45 AM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,492 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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I know what you go through, I lived in Omaha for awhile, no amount of clothing will keep the cold out...thats why I live on the west coast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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| william harris |
Nov 3 2006, 08:51 AM
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914 Restorer Group: Members Posts: 1,459 Joined: 9-January 04 From: Hamilton, MA Member No.: 1,539 |
California Dreaming!!!! But heck, we got Kerry, Kennedy, Barney Frank, et. al. to make it that much more fun to be here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif)
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| iamchappy |
Nov 3 2006, 09:00 AM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest  |
I had the same problem here 17ยบ this morning, I do have an electric heater that I mounted to an extra ash tray I had that worked pretty good, I had to hard wire it to the battery, I put an electrical plug end on it and ran a extension cord type plug that was hard wired to the battery. I also picked up a very nice 1966 911 Eberspacher gas heater I was considering installing but instead choose to go the heat exchanger route which I also feel works very good. Let me know if your interested in this stuff as I have no use for it.
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| SirAndy |
Nov 3 2006, 11:28 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,625 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(william harris @ Nov 3 2006, 06:26 AM)  had me wondering about installing the Eberspacher heater go for it! i had one in my '74 bug, insane heat, like sauna hot on a -10C morning ... set the timer to 1/2 hour before you want to leave and the car will be nice and toasty ... they work great! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) Andy |
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| william harris |
Nov 3 2006, 11:41 AM
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914 Restorer Group: Members Posts: 1,459 Joined: 9-January 04 From: Hamilton, MA Member No.: 1,539 |
Well, if nothing else it will give me something to work on during the long, long winter here in Massachusetts.
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| reverie |
Nov 3 2006, 05:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 783 Joined: 14-March 03 Member No.: 427 Region Association: None |
A reconditioned Eberspacher from Ark Mirvis would be awesome. I think the Eberspacher heat outlet (duct) goes directly into the cabin, in only one spot? It might be nice to connect the outlet to the stock tubing to direct the heat to other spots, but I don't know if that's necessary.
You could also check the local RV shops, to see what kind of auxiliary heaters they have.. just a thought. |
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| Gary |
Nov 3 2006, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 12-January 03 From: Mount Airy, MD Member No.: 134 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I have a gas version of one of these: Espar D1LC in a box. Haven't gotten around to installing it yet. With a -6 conversion, not a lot of other good options outside of the stock or the $2k PMS stainless heat exchangers.
I have an Ark-rebuilt unit in our bug too. Works great. He's a little pricey though - as I recall about $400 to rebuild my unit. I figured burning gasoline in the trunk warranted a qualified rebuild though. |
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| GeorgeRud |
Nov 3 2006, 11:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I also picked up a used Eberspacher gas heater (watch, the D series are for diesel fuel) to heat the 914-6 conversion. Eventually, I went with some heat exchangers and they work well but were expensive.
If someone has a good system in place with the gas heater, pictures would be appreciated. I don't believe anyone has actually seen the Eberspacher system installed in the 914s though. |
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| McMark |
Nov 4 2006, 12:13 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I've never held or looked at a gas heater in person. Would it fit in the area where the relay board is? That would make ducting the heated air super easy, as well as fuel and electrical.
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| turboman808 |
Nov 4 2006, 03:14 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
Think tomorrow is gonna be the last day of driving for me til next year
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| Mueller |
Nov 4 2006, 03:43 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(McMark @ Nov 3 2006, 10:13 PM) I've never held or looked at a gas heater in person. Would it fit in the area where the relay board is? That would make ducting the heated air super easy, as well as fuel and electrical. I have the same one as George...next time you come on over, hopefully one of us will remember to take a look at at (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
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