 /6 vs. /4, a perpetual bashing thread ... |
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| SirAndy |
  Nov 10 2006, 07:27 PM
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Resident German  Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California  |
alright, here it is. the official /6 vs. /4 bashing thread! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
here's your chance to be heard. (or hurt) give it your best shot. take off the gloves. no punch too low. no rules (except no porn, no politics and no religion)(puppies are welcome). name calling is a plus. get down and dirty. tell us how you really feel. i'll start: - /4 have a better low end torque curve, thus they're better suited for AX - /6 have more high end rpm power, thus they're better suited for the big track - a used /6 can be had for cheap, a used /4 can be had for cheaper - a /6 rebuild into something nice will cost more than you car will ever be worth - a raby /4 is expensive, but at least you know what you're getting for your money - most /6 conversion seem to be done "on the cheap". cheap motor, cheap parts, cheap owners = poor quality (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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| Trekkor |
Nov 10 2006, 07:38 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I already feel "dirty". It'll clean off though.
Care to field a guess of how many a/x and track days on this "filth mobile"? Not including this Sunday and Dec 10th. El Cheapo Grande!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) KT |
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| SirAndy |
Nov 10 2006, 07:45 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 10 2006, 05:38 PM)  Care to field a guess of how many a/x and track days on this "filth mobile"? Not including this Sunday and Dec 10th. and that proves what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) i'd rather not be caught driving behind you when that 20lbs wooden board you call a "splitter" works his way lose and cuts through someones windshield. but that's for another thread ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) refresh my memory again, you paid how much for your used /6? $1000? is that what they're going for these days? how does it compare to a /4 of similar displacement? did you not brake your cheap "quick-six" motor mount bar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
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| Joe Bob |
Nov 10 2006, 07:49 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
I farted on a new Cayman's leather seat today......
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| Howard |
Nov 10 2006, 07:55 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None 
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Shouldn't this be a pole? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
OK, IMHO easy answers. Have driven 6 914's. The 2.0 4 is the best driver. Low end torque, not much shifting, good economy, not a lot of moving parts. Not much power so you don't need to 'update' everything. 6's are sexier, but stock early small displacement motors don't offer little improvement over the 4 except on longer tracks. And the sound. I've driven Dekmans 3.0, arguably the best all around car here. Amazing handling, brakes, sound, looks. I love it, but it's 'busier' to drive than my 4. Even on the track, more shifting, more everything, much higher limits. Z's 3.2 is also amazing. Great low end torque, lots of HP, scary fast. Feels like it needs more tire, brakes, suspension. Putting that FI motor in Dekman's car could be the ultimate 914. But it wouldn't put a much bigger grin on my face Sunday mornings at Our Lady of Mulholland than my 2.0. Suzi has enough suspension, tires, and brakes that work well together. If I were just a better driver.... |
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| jwalters |
Nov 10 2006, 07:57 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) Oh yeas, let the anarchy begin:
A six should be installed only in a chassis specifically designed for a six and numbered as such from the fatherland factory. Period. Any person who willfully swaps out his stock delivered four cylinder engine for a six openly displays their complete lack of manhood and can be seen as having no "sack". For to truly have balls of brass a real, defined man shall build upon that which is bestowed upon him by the factory for said display of manhood. To take the "cheap" and "easy" way out in order to dominate in ones chosen field by installing a six cylinder engine shall heretofor be known as a "WUSSY" For those not in the know of what terminology is "wussy" I shall explain. The "wus" is slang from american ebonics known as "Wimp" Definition of "WIMP" : To completely lack manhood, yellow spined, hunted, to be destoyed by neighbors 6 year old girl, non-red blooded, absent of indeginous thought. The second portion of "Wussy", another americanized ebonics venture known as "Pussy" Definition of "Pussy" : known in the great americanized culture of a womans vagina, or, "PUSSY" This term is only partly taken from "Pussy Cat" with the "cat" dropped off. The term "Pussy" is a very neutral, if not nurturing term of american slang known as the " Kitty". However, when used in the context of not referring to a womans holiest of holy's, the term "Pussy" carries new weight as such to : define what was once, could have been, or was born and yet never matured into, a "MAN". Heretofor a new manlaw is decreed: In accordance with all orders of the right of passage of manhood a new law it is decreed: To be completely and utterly so weak and of non-matured decent, manlaw #4675 is set forth as follows to refer to said male gender as a "WUSSY" , further defind as "Part wimp, and mostly Pussy". NUFF SAID |
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| Joe Bob |
Nov 10 2006, 07:59 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Howard @ Nov 10 2006, 05:55 PM) Shouldn't this be a pole? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) OK, IMHO easy answers. Have driven 6 914's. The 2.0 4 is the best driver. Low end torque, not much shifting, good economy, not a lot of moving parts. Not much power so you don't need to 'update' everything. 6's are sexier, but stock early small displacement motors don't offer little improvement over the 4 except on longer tracks. And the sound. I've driven Dekmans 3.0, arguably the best all around car here. Amazing handling, brakes, sound, looks. I love it, but it's 'busier' to drive than my 4. Even on the track, more shifting, more everything, much higher limits. Z's 3.2 is also amazing. Great low end torque, lots of HP, scary fast. Feels like it needs more tire, brakes, suspension. Putting that FI motor in Dekman's car could be the ultimate 914. But it wouldn't put a much bigger grin on my face Sunday mornings at Our Lady of Mulholland than my 2.0. Suzi has enough suspension, tires, and brakes that work well together. If I were just a better driver.... I ain't finished yet....it gets corner balanced next week and it has PLENTY of brake. As to being a better driver....maybe being younger and driving w/o Depends on would help..... |
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| jimkelly |
Nov 10 2006, 08:01 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think it is time to regroup - and instead of one or the other being the bigger man - we can all take this opportunity to be bigger men - more importantly 914club members who respect one another and use some care in the words we choose when communicating. This site is not about pissing each other off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Yack.gif) or for relentless bragging about our car. Sometimes less is MORE. PEACE OUT - jim : )
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| DNHunt |
Nov 10 2006, 08:06 PM
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914 Wizard? No way. I got too much to learn. Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Gig Harbor, WA Member No.: 598 |
I'm bored, I think I'll have a beer
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| jwalters |
Nov 10 2006, 08:09 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(jimkelly @ Nov 10 2006, 09:01 PM) I think it is time to regroup - and instead of one or the other being the bigger man - we can all take this opportunity to be bigger men - more importantly 914club members who respect one another and use some care in the words we choose when communicating. This site is not about pissing each other off (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Yack.gif) or for relentless bragging about our car. Sometimes less is MORE. PEACE OUT - jim : ) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) But Jim, in accordance with the topic starter, and admin, we have been given free reign to admonish, denengrate, and outright defame other members in a very neutral, american man way of life. For to outright poke fun at another man is right of passage ----- <or> Are you a "Wussy"??? |
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| J P Stein |
Nov 10 2006, 08:11 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Is this what this forum has come to?
I'm gone. |
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| iamchappy |
Nov 10 2006, 08:13 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
914 6 Gt Turbo Carrera.......that's all.
Bash away I can take it (after all it's all in fun) right..... |
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| jwalters |
Nov 10 2006, 08:21 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(iamchappy @ Nov 10 2006, 09:13 PM) 914 6 Gt Turbo Carrera.......that's all. Bash away I can take it (after all it's all in fun) right..... YES it is!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You are among the few to realise ..... YOUR CAR SUCKS ASS AND BLACKSABBATH WILL DOMINATE YOU IN EVERY WAY BIATCH! |
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| Allan |
Nov 10 2006, 08:22 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(mikez @ Nov 10 2006, 05:59 PM) maybe being younger and driving w/o Depends on would help..... Howie, do you have to take them off when you're wearing a helmet to clear the top? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) |
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| Bleyseng |
Nov 10 2006, 08:23 PM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Where ya going to JP?
this is the neverending thread.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| G e o r g e |
Nov 10 2006, 08:26 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None 
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| G e o r g e |
Nov 10 2006, 08:28 PM
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Dr Group: Members Posts: 1,905 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Southern Cal Member No.: 4,832 Region Association: None
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 10 2006, 08:29 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
The Cap'n likes sixes, so they're the best thing for everyone. There is no possible way to refute this statement. Resistance is futile. The Cap'n
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| messix |
Nov 10 2006, 08:30 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
screw 4's and 6's!!!!!
V8's forever!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flipa.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flipa.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flipa.gif) |
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| Howard |
Nov 10 2006, 08:33 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(mikez @ Nov 10 2006, 05:59 PM) I ain't finished yet....it gets corner balanced next week and it has PLENTY of brake. As to being a better driver....maybe being younger and driving w/o Depends on would help..... Z, you sanctimonious sack of shit! I admit I'm not fast, but I do stay ahead of you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/KMA.gif) We were talking about cars, not drivers. I'm saying that same driver on Mulholland or a short track/AX would at least as fast in my 2.0 as he would in he would in your 3.2 in its present condition. And would do it with less shifting, better economy, lower cost, and not break as much of a sweat. Grin factor?? In the eye of the beholder. Of course, you could add another $10k in tires, brakes and suspension to your car and whip my ass. You could be as fast as an automatic 996 (at the same price). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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