alright, here it is. the official /6 vs. /4 bashing thread!

here's your chance to be heard. (or hurt)
give it your best shot.
take off the gloves.
no punch too low.
no rules (except no porn, no politics and no religion)(puppies are welcome).
name calling is a plus.
get down and dirty.
tell us how you really feel.



i'll start:

- /4 have a better low end torque curve, thus they're better suited for AX
- /6 have more high end rpm power, thus they're better suited for the big track
- a used /6 can be had for cheap, a used /4 can be had for cheaper
- a /6 rebuild into something nice will cost more than you car will ever be worth
- a raby /4 is expensive, but at least you know what you're getting for your money
- most /6 conversion seem to be done "on the cheap". cheap motor, cheap parts, cheap owners = poor quality


Andy

I already feel "dirty". It'll clean off though.

Care to field a guess of how many a/x and track days on this "filth mobile"?
Not including this Sunday and Dec 10th.

El Cheapo Grande!!


KT

and that proves what?

i'd rather not be caught driving behind you when that 20lbs wooden board you call a "splitter" works his way lose and cuts through someones windshield. but that's for another thread ...

refresh my memory again, you paid how much for your used /6? $1000? is that what they're going for these days? how does it compare to a /4 of similar displacement? did you not brake your cheap "quick-six" motor mount bar?
Andy

I farted on a new Cayman's leather seat today......

Shouldn't this be a pole?

OK, IMHO easy answers. Have driven 6 914's. The 2.0 4 is the best driver. Low end torque, not much shifting, good economy, not a lot of moving parts. Not much power so you don't need to 'update' everything.

6's are sexier, but stock early small displacement motors don't offer little improvement over the 4 except on longer tracks. And the sound.

I've driven Dekmans 3.0, arguably the best all around car here. Amazing handling, brakes, sound, looks. I love it, but it's 'busier' to drive than my 4. Even on the track, more shifting, more everything, much higher limits.

Z's 3.2 is also amazing. Great low end torque, lots of HP, scary fast. Feels like it needs more tire, brakes, suspension. Putting that FI motor in Dekman's car could be the ultimate 914. But it wouldn't put a much bigger grin on my face Sunday mornings at Our Lady of Mulholland than my 2.0.

Suzi has enough suspension, tires, and brakes that work well together. If I were just a better driver....

Oh yeas, let the anarchy begin:

A six should be installed only in a chassis specifically designed for a six and numbered as such from the fatherland factory. Period.

Any person who willfully swaps out his stock delivered four cylinder engine for a six openly displays their complete lack of manhood and can be seen as having no "sack". For to truly have balls of brass a real, defined man shall build upon that which is bestowed upon him by the factory for said display of manhood. To take the "cheap" and "easy" way out in order to dominate in ones chosen field by installing a six cylinder engine shall heretofor be known as a "WUSSY" For those not in the know of what terminology is "wussy" I shall explain. The "wus" is slang from american ebonics known as "Wimp"


Definition of "WIMP" : To completely lack manhood, yellow spined, hunted, to be destoyed by neighbors 6 year old girl, non-red blooded, absent of indeginous thought.

The second portion of "Wussy", another americanized ebonics venture known as "Pussy"

Definition of "Pussy" : known in the great americanized culture of a womans vagina, or, "PUSSY" This term is only partly taken from "Pussy Cat" with the "cat" dropped off. The term "Pussy" is a very neutral, if not nurturing term of american slang known as the " Kitty". However, when used in the context of not referring to a womans holiest of holy's, the term "Pussy" carries new weight as such to : define what was once, could have been, or was born and yet never matured into, a "MAN".

Heretofor a new manlaw is decreed: In accordance with all orders of the right of passage of manhood a new law it is decreed: To be completely and utterly so weak and of non-matured decent, manlaw #4675 is set forth as follows to refer to said male gender as a "WUSSY" , further defind as "Part wimp, and mostly Pussy".

NUFF SAID

I ain't finished yet....it gets corner balanced next week and it has PLENTY of brake. As to being a better driver....maybe being younger and driving w/o Depends on would help.....

I think it is time to regroup - and instead of one or the other being the bigger man - we can all take this opportunity to be bigger men - more importantly 914club members who respect one another and use some care in the words we choose when communicating. This site is not about pissing each other off or for relentless bragging about our car. Sometimes less is MORE. PEACE OUT - jim : )

I'm bored, I think I'll have a beer

But Jim, in accordance with the topic starter, and admin, we have been given free reign to admonish, denengrate, and outright defame other members in a very neutral, american man way of life. For to outright poke fun at another man is right of passage -----

<or>

Are you a "Wussy"???

Is this what this forum has come to?
I'm gone.

914 6 Gt Turbo Carrera.......that's all.









Bash away I can take it (after all it's all in fun) right.....

YES it is!! You are among the few to realise .....


YOUR CAR SUCKS ASS AND BLACKSABBATH WILL DOMINATE YOU IN EVERY WAY BIATCH!

Howie, do you have to take them off when you're wearing a helmet to clear the top?

Where ya going to JP?


this is the neverending thread....

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this guy drives a "Cheap Six"

Brain

This is the brain of a /4 driver










edited to eliminate PM's again...............

The Cap'n likes sixes, so they're the best thing for everyone. There is no possible way to refute this statement. Resistance is futile. The Cap'n

screw 4's and 6's!!!!!

V8's forever!!!!!

Z, you sanctimonious sack of shit! I admit I'm not fast, but I do stay ahead of you.

We were talking about cars, not drivers. I'm saying that same driver on Mulholland or a short track/AX would at least as fast in my 2.0 as he would in he would in your 3.2 in its present condition. And would do it with less shifting, better economy, lower cost, and not break as much of a sweat. Grin factor?? In the eye of the beholder.

Of course, you could add another $10k in tires, brakes and suspension to your car and whip my ass. You could be as fast as an automatic 996 (at the same price).

WaterBoy

well, no. see, if i give them a thread where they can beat each other up over this, they'll keep the other threads clean and i don't have to babysit each and every T4 thread on this board which eventually has to be closed and removed ...

this is, in fact, going to save the forum!
Andy

This from the youngster driving the 914/6 in an A/X running 4 seconds behind the old fart in the 996 in drive? With the A/C and stereo on singing 'Hotel California'?

Shame, shame.

leaf blower!

With a Six and the Friggin rain we are having I prefer "Hover Craft"

NO! NO! NO!


KT

not even close,,, too heavy.

squirt boat [jet boat]

My Mazdaspeed 2.3L DISI turbocharged DOHC I-4 pumps out 274 hp and 280 ft lbs of torque at 3000 RPM will give most six cylinder Porsches a run for their money when moving between 20 and 80 mph.

I vote for 4!

With or without the "hairdryer"?

And gets 24 miles per bottle of Saki.

rice burners -

Yep, i drive a Nissan Altima with the 3.5, SIX, of course.

Huge acceleration and power.

My wife won't let me track it...


KT

Less filling....




























Tastes great



Can't we all just get along?

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Shhh I even drive a Miata Its a sickness, [/quote]




I believe man law enaction of "Wussy" is appropriate.

But it has a FOUR. Make up your mind, already.


KT

In keeping with the spirit of the topic starter, this is a place about teeners -

The miata is not a car.

The miata is a homosexual transportation device.

No kidding, I thought maybe he was Rabid

Actually, a Spec Miata is a serious racer that most cannot keep up with.


KT

i think i am going back to a four.....
grant ...trek .....
i am done!....u guys r pissin off most of the four crowd.....
they are a majority here....instead of sittin on your puter hackin guys....get out and get out and do something positive...like getting your hack sixes running
and to top it off....
i think jake is a genius!!!!

Asian books 40% off...

actually he drives a 998cc /4

I have a fix for the /4 guys with /6 envy

over 850 HP

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all we do to the engine is inspect/change the rod bearings every year or so, and keep an eye on the exhaust valve guides

A 180 HP -4 in a so-so-prepped 914 - - but with a very good wheel man, will whup sorry smoke ass in the twisties all over that mongoloid - good-for-straights-only contraption. And I am talking 1970's tech at that - even porsche knows it would happen---

both 4's and 6's suck.


i like 1's.

Can we stick one of the at each wheel, Nathan?

lol, you'd only need two of them to make as much horsepower as the average 914...

I've been racing a 4 for 8 years. I want a 6. But, I also want new tile, a bigger patio, new windows in every room, and a new garage.
I'm sick of the finicky 4 breaking pretty regularly, I'm racing a damned VW van engine for God's sake, what was I thinking?
So, I really want a 6, but I'll really miss kicking the dog crap out of guys with nicely prepped SC's and Carreras, them with $30K, $40K, 50K in their cars and me with less than $10K in mine.
They come over sometimes and ask what sized engine I have, I say 2.1.
They say 2.1? I haven't heard of a 6 that size.
I say, it's a 4.
They don't like it. At all.

A new company called "Exhaustive Solutions" will (hopefully) be up and running by end of next year with a range of products for T4. These products go into a completely new arena with heavy duty power upgrades - They will give owners a new grin factor by dominating with T4 power. Both in absolute genious application and affordability.

Fours are the future! GREAT SUCCESS!

Volker says 4's are "Scheiße"