Stainless Steel Lines from Pelican Parts, Need a coupler to make them work??? |
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Stainless Steel Lines from Pelican Parts, Need a coupler to make them work??? |
Carlitos Way |
Nov 16 2006, 10:54 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) I ordered a set of the Stainless steel (DOT approved) steel lines from the bird board. No mention of any adapters needed. It turns out the hoses are female to female... which is fine for the end that goes to the frame... but how do I get them attached to the calipers? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
I don't see any mention of any adapters needed... or perhaps I've got the wrong lines? Any experience with the Bird's lines? |
Crazyhippy |
Nov 16 2006, 11:09 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Assuming you are dealing w/ the fronts, there is a "S" shaped hardline that the braided line attaches too... You'll see it when you take everything apart.
Call me if you get lost, i can hand the phone to someone that knows what they are talking about while i'm @ the BBQ. BJH |
Carlitos Way |
Nov 16 2006, 11:11 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Assuming you are dealing w/ the fronts, there is a "S" shaped hardline that the braided line attaches too... You'll see it when you take everything apart. Call me if you get lost, i can hand the phone to someone that knows what they are talking about while i'm @ the BBQ. BJH I'm actually talking about the rears... I guess I should upload pics. |
Crazyhippy |
Nov 16 2006, 11:14 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
rears are hardlined along the bottom of the trailing arm, and only soft around the pivot... Go look, stop trying to put it together on your desk.
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Carlitos Way |
Nov 16 2006, 11:17 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Here is the problem. First picture: The line actually BROKE when i was trying to remove it from the caliper.
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Carlitos Way |
Nov 16 2006, 11:18 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
So I went to the bird board and ordered "stainless steel lines" assuming they were the same ones. You can see the "nipple," or rather the piece that broke off the old line, that fits into the caliper between the two lines.
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Carlitos Way |
Nov 16 2006, 11:24 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
I'm guessing I need something like this... but with a METRIC thread.
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eg914 |
Nov 17 2006, 12:03 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 319 Joined: 17-June 04 From: Elk Grove, CA Member No.: 2,223 Region Association: None |
I recently replaced all four lines with stock type, the ends looked like those on the braided lines in the photo. It looks like your hard like broke at the caliper. That is what you should be looking for. The flexible lines do not connect directly to the calipers on this car. They are female on both ends to accomodate the fittings on the ends of the hard lines.
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Aaron Cox |
Nov 17 2006, 12:10 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
you need another stock hardline.
hardline goes from caliper to trailing arm. soft line or braided line goes from trailing arm to body mount... |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 17 2006, 09:59 AM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) SS lines don't replace hard lines. They replace the rubber soft lines.
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Carlitos Way |
Nov 17 2006, 10:06 AM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Sounds like it's time for another Bird order (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Thanks for the input guys! |
Carlitos Way |
Nov 17 2006, 10:55 AM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Does anybody have a part number and source for the steel lines that go from the control arm to the caliper?
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2-OH! |
Nov 17 2006, 04:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 552 Joined: 17-October 03 From: Santa Clarita, Kalifornication Member No.: 1,253 |
Eric Shea:
Are the hard line fittings and the caliper threads metric or are they US standards... If US standards, you can buy the lines with fittings, various lenghts at any FLAPS and bend your own...You better be a good bender though...They are small lines... 2-OH! |
SirAndy |
Nov 17 2006, 04:41 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Are the hard line fittings and the caliper threads metric or are they US standards... now, i'm no expert on brakelines, but i don't think a car manufactured in germany in the early '70s would have used US standard fittings ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) Andy PS: in fact, what ever happened to your (the US of A) switch to metric in the late '70s ??? |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 17 2006, 04:43 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Bad news is, those (metric) hard lines are NLA. You'll need to have them made up and bent. I may try a local outfit here and have a bunch made... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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736conver |
Nov 17 2006, 04:50 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,117 Joined: 25-May 03 From: SE Wisconsin Member No.: 736 Region Association: None |
They are still made you just have to buy it in kit form, the whole car, made by cohine. As for bending them its not hard. Just use a brake bender or various round items. I made some nice bends using a glass beer bottle.
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Carlitos Way |
Nov 17 2006, 07:06 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Would you happent o have contact info for Cohine?
Thanks! |
Crazyhippy |
Nov 17 2006, 08:34 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
Carlos, you should be able to get the hardlines from Napa, or similar. They are a 10mm bubble flare. Measure the lenght you need (+or-an inch) and call around for one. They might only be available in 12, 15 or 18" lengths, so be sure it will fit. I can bend it up in no time if need be, or use a bottle and have at it.
BJH |
Carlitos Way |
Nov 17 2006, 10:19 PM
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I did it MY WAY Group: Members Posts: 1,337 Joined: 14-September 04 From: Simi Valley, CA Member No.: 2,757 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks guys!!!
THe fix was as BJ said: $4.19 at NAPA. Standard length. Metric? no problem! Guy knew exactly where they were and he even showed me. I picked up 2 lengths just in case. Turned out the short one was just perfect. I believe it was 18 inches. Thanks a lot for all your help!!! |
Crazyhippy |
Nov 18 2006, 12:31 AM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif) I'm gonna have a beer in my honor (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
OK, maybe 3.. you guys talked me into it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) BJH |
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