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> Today everything changed...., Now we're ROLLING!!! Lifters that is!
Jake Raby
post Nov 17 2006, 02:38 PM
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After 5 months of busting ass the final prototypes are completed...

In the pics attached you'll see the roller cams and lifters that will help to boost the TIV even higher in 2007 and beyond...

In one of them you'll see a roller cam thats only 2 degrees altered from it's flat tappet cousin side by side for comparison- they'll be getting tested the same way- back to back.... The roller cam is also only .010 healthier on lift than the flat tappet, but look at how much of a difference the lobes have....

I posted more pics and text over on my forums, but thought that grant and trekkor would like to see these so they could start their bashing before they were even tested.. They'll need the head start.



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post Nov 17 2006, 02:59 PM
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:12 PM
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:22 PM
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:24 PM
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Honkin big!!
I look for 20% more torque from these bad boyz!!!

As well as 2056 engines as strong as last years 2270s!
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:26 PM
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What do you think a set will cost, I know it's a guess but I want one so it's

time to save now.
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:29 PM
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So the big power differences are going to be due to the increased ramp speed?
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:31 PM
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The two posted in the pic have cost about 8,000 bucks to make from start to finish along with tooling and their lifters!!!!!

I am still only planning on these being available in complete engines at this stage. I'd hate for them to fall into the wrong hands..

They have a lot more development that is required before ever being released, but today was a major boost! The next step is to build two test engines and dyno them till they break..
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:35 PM
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The 914 gods approve! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) My 2056 has plenty of power and sounds real good with the Chris Foley Evo exhaust heralding its way. Your cam work, combined with the head work by Hoffman have just totally transformed the Type IV. I can't imagine how much fun 20% more torque would be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:37 PM
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nice.....

why the copper plating?
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:37 PM
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Looks nice in pictures.........
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$8 grand??!!!!

Don't you know i could buy 7 six cylinder engines for that much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:41 PM
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$8 grand??!!!!

Don't you know i could buy 7 six cylinder engines for that much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) That's some funny shit.
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:59 PM
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I am still only planning on these being available in complete engines at this stage. I'd hate for them to fall into the wrong hands..



It would be a little difficult for it to fall into the wrong hands when its in my engine but I understand your concerns.

Sure looks like horsepower to me, I hope you reconsider some of us insist on
building our own engines.
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post Nov 17 2006, 03:59 PM
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jake, those are SOME CRAZY ramps!!!very cool!!!!

so they have a 'bushing' that keeps em straight.. keyway style. nice!!!

cant wait to see some results!!!

hope you can recoup the investment quickly, so you will sell them to the public (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 17 2006, 04:22 PM
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The copper plating keeps the heat treat from penetrating into the shank of the cam, making it brittle and easy to snap..


That 8K doesn't include the 10,000 in tooling needed to ensure the cases are true and also to repair the cases that are not.

This is very critical work, one thousandth is a mile..

As always the engine shop will retain these entirely for at least two years then we'll see about sales to the public..
Thats IF they work out...

It won't be the first time I spent months developing something that didn't work, if thats what happens....
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post Nov 17 2006, 07:22 PM
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post Nov 17 2006, 08:21 PM
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this is THE CATALYST.
Its GOOD to have pushrods now. OHC, bah. All that extra weight and machinery. These pups will flat out (haha bad pun) resonate in there! Its so simple. Oh I want one so bad, and not just this new improved heart i want the whole monster assembled by Dr. Rabystien himself. Bwaahahahaha!
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post Nov 17 2006, 08:47 PM
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Thanks Scott...

You are "Local" enough to be a very effective guinea pig...

Whaddya say to a 9.5:1-150HP 7,500 + RPM 2056?? Thats the reality with these bad boys and LE 200 heads..
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post Nov 17 2006, 08:55 PM
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Jake, I love (and i mean LOVE) your dedication to this and engineering new things etc... in general so dont take this the wrong way. I understand some guys just want something different.

But,

Am I the only guy out there who doesnt get excited about 150hp? Why would all these sort of developments for the type4 make only 150hp?? (or is that just an 2.0)

And again, dont get me wrong, if somebody was handing out engines and I had to choose between a p.six, a suby, or a raby 4 etc..... I'd take the Raby just to hear it.

I'm just boggled at why it doesnt make way north of 200hp.
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post Nov 17 2006, 09:02 PM
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When do I need to be ready? Don't you have a prefered installation shop, or should I come with a truck?

we need a drooling smilie.

In all honesty,I'll certainly pay for installation and maintain all needed records. Are you serious? I can come start sweeping the shop every night starting next week...
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