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post Nov 12 2003, 02:54 PM
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Chris, those last pics I posted are of Nick V's 914. I took those at an event at Watkins Glen this past summer.

BTW Im interested in your suspension console idea
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post Nov 12 2003, 03:02 PM
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This is alan alesi's car. He doubled up the sheetmetal crossbar in the rear (see arrow) by cutting the part from a donor car and welding it to his chassis. Makes good sense since the cage tubing gets welded to it.

Even with all this, his car failed at the firewall. He did repair it OK. Also, his car has a crazy 2.5L motor. At least 280hp.

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post Nov 12 2003, 03:10 PM
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Foley,

We need to chat about a new 914 control arm that adjusts camber/caster at the wheel. I have some already made.. I just need them duped. The jigs are buried in Texas and I wont have access them for another 6 months or so...

Here you go.


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post Nov 12 2003, 03:11 PM
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911 SC rear bearing carriers for fabbed 914 rear control arm:

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post Nov 12 2003, 03:14 PM
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And here something else we should work on..


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post Nov 12 2003, 03:17 PM
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Brad, how will they adjust at the wheel? Do they work on an ecentric(sp)? Shims?
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post Nov 12 2003, 03:19 PM
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You can see the shims in the pic above.

This was done 5 years ago:


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post Nov 12 2003, 03:21 PM
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Adjusting the camber at the wheel instead of at the front of the control arm (like all the 914's) keeps the camber constant throughout the range of motion. Unlike adjusting it at the front of the control arm. Right now in a stock config race car... the camber changes as you load and unload the car into corners. With the fabbed control arm setup adjusting it out at the wheel.. this doesnt happen.


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post Nov 12 2003, 03:22 PM
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Ah yes, grasshopper see.
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post Nov 12 2003, 03:25 PM
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I spent three years on the alignment rack of a Chrysler dealership in the 70's. I understand the theory. Why is this not a standard upgrade?
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post Nov 12 2003, 03:33 PM
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914 people wont pay ???? LOL


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post Nov 12 2003, 03:39 PM
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Cheap bastards!
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Actually the racers would (if they understand alignments).


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I know the AX guy's around here spend plenty on stuff that doesn't help. I used to set all three axis of the chrysler front ends in just a few minutes and road test to center steering wheel. All in under 20 minutes. Seems like this would be great for track or autocross. Instant alignment for the specific track.
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post Nov 12 2003, 04:12 PM
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"Actually the racers would (if they understand alignments)."

brad, first we better check the rule books. I understand enough to know that those things will kick me right out of most vintage classes.

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QUOTE(TimT @ Nov 12 2003, 03:54 PM)
Chris, those last pics I posted are of Nick V's 914. I took those at an event at Watkins Glen this past summer.

BTW Im interested in your suspension console idea

I wasn't too sure because it doesn't say "Formula" (like Ferrari) on the side of the car in your pic, like it did last time I saw it.

I thought there was a fence inside the garages at WGI.

I'll post pictures of the suspension when I get it together.
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 12 2003, 04:10 PM)
new 914 control arm that adjusts camber/caster at the wheel

That looks nicer than what I saw in pics of Roger Sheridan's car in the past. Good idea, but seems like it would be somewhat more difficult to adjust than the stock method.
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post Nov 12 2003, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 12 2003, 01:10 PM)
Foley,

We need to chat about a new 914 control arm that adjusts camber/caster at the wheel. I have some already made.. I just need them duped. The jigs are buried in Texas and I wont have access them for another 6 months or so...

Here you go.


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Brad,

I see the camber adjustment, but fail to see how caster is aeffected. Can you please explain?

Thanks,

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Brad,
What would the front/rear suspension setup pictured above cost?
I will do the front, for sure....need more info on the rear.

BTW, What you did to support the tranny is just right, minimalistic design,,,,,love it.
Is that the new version????

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post Nov 13 2003, 01:22 AM
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Andy.. I really shouldnt have said "caster". I get so used to chatting about the front end that it ends up in type.

I should have said TOE... LOL


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