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> Good news for CO guys!, PPIR to re-open?
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post Nov 19 2006, 05:12 PM
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Check it out.

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129155
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post Nov 19 2006, 06:01 PM
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ferrari chat? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Golf course and houses around a race track ?

BRILLIANT! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Nov 19 2006, 06:30 PM
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Golf course and houses around a race track ?

BRILLIANT!


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Agreed!!

Maybe us NARP guys could go in on a condo??? Wait'll they get a load of us!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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post Nov 19 2006, 07:15 PM
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I need more proof. It was originally sold under the premise that it would not be used for motorsports in the future. Show me the MONEY.
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post Nov 20 2006, 11:25 AM
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Wonder if its Mr. Garage Mahal dude.... Like maybe he want's a little place to play, or at least let his private driver get his cars up to speed every now and then.

The posting did mention tearing down the grandstands. Maybe that satisfies the "no motorsports" clause in the previous sale; i.e., no sales of tickets to large numbers of fans.
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post Nov 20 2006, 12:59 PM
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The sale stipulated that no large scale, spectator oriented events can be held. That left the door open for private and/or amateur stuff.

And I think I know who the buyer is. A fellow who's made many millions from the WWE. No, not a wrestler, I think he's a promoter or broadcaster type, a suit. Anyway, A friend of mine was down there a while back, just looking over the site, and up drove a ferrari and my friend ond the ferrari driver talked a bit. The guy seemed genuinely interested in buying the site, even then, and money did not seem to be an issue...

Anyway, that's what I heard...

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post Nov 20 2006, 03:17 PM
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The sale stipulated that no large scale, spectator oriented events can be held. That left the door open for private and/or amateur stuff.

And I think I know who the buyer is. A fellow who's made many millions from the WWE. No, not a wrestler, I think he's a promoter or broadcaster type, a suit. Anyway, A friend of mine was down there a while back, just looking over the site, and up drove a ferrari and my friend ond the ferrari driver talked a bit. The guy seemed genuinely interested in buying the site, even then, and money did not seem to be an issue...

Anyway, that's what I heard...

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getting closer...
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post Nov 20 2006, 03:32 PM
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ben,
are you getting excited to track that monster 35 horses you have in your wabbit?
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post Nov 21 2006, 08:33 AM
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ben,
are you getting excited to track that monster 35 horses you have in your wabbit?


One LAST time Greg...It's 52 FWHP, 80 Lb/Ft of torque and NO - it is an around town driver. It would probably explode if tracked. FWD VW cooling systems lack much to be desired.

But that pull off the line will pin you in your seat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)
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post Nov 21 2006, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Nov 20 2006, 02:32 PM) *

ben,
are you getting excited to track that monster 35 horses you have in your wabbit?


One LAST time Greg...It's 52 FWHP, 80 Lb/Ft of torque and NO - it is an around town driver. It would probably explode if tracked. FWD VW cooling systems lack much to be desired.

But that pull off the line will pin you in your seat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)


Yeah, and it smells like french fries.
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post Nov 21 2006, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(BMartin914 @ Nov 21 2006, 07:33 AM) *

QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ Nov 20 2006, 02:32 PM) *

ben,
are you getting excited to track that monster 35 horses you have in your wabbit?


One LAST time Greg...It's 52 FWHP, 80 Lb/Ft of torque and NO - it is an around town driver. It would probably explode if tracked. FWD VW cooling systems lack much to be desired.

But that pull off the line will pin you in your seat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)


Yeah, and it smells like french fries.


Not exactly. More like straight diesel.
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post Nov 22 2006, 10:07 AM
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:::CONFIRMED:::

This morning on channel 9...

PPIR will be developed into a "country club style" track with monthly / yearly dues.

Sale is done according to the news.
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post Nov 22 2006, 10:13 AM
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post Dec 2 2006, 05:38 PM
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And another!!

A virtual plethora of tracks in the works! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
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post Dec 3 2006, 12:29 AM
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Kind in mind folks, these are private country club tracks. Forget about taking the car out there for a half day of test and tune for only $100 or so. In order to take advantage of the track like that is going to be coughing up enough money to buy a Boxter. Now, it's hopefull that they'll rent their tracks to clubs for weekend events, DE's and Club Races, but Test n' Tune? Probably not, but one can hope...

And I doubt that they'll be cheap track to lease...

Also, there are plenty more tracks in the works right now. So it won't only be country clubs.

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post Dec 3 2006, 07:51 AM
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I've been wondering about that Josh. Do you think there's really enough of a market to support 1, much less 2, country club tracks in CO? If there isnt enough market, wouldn't the owners then look for different markets; i.e.-club events, test and tunes, etc?
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post Dec 3 2006, 08:14 AM
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When I first heard this story on the news, they said that fees/dues for "similar facilities" range from $1200 - $3500. They did not say if that was monthly/bi-annually/annually, but it seems pretty cheap for an annual due for the gold chain and chest hair crowd...
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post Dec 3 2006, 08:48 AM
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Ben,

I think those estimates/averages are annual per a person.
your right, thats probably cheap to some.

its pretty scarry to me though

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post Dec 3 2006, 08:55 AM
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That's still quite expensive for most of us. Myself included.

But for someone with the scratch to buy a $100,000+ car, that's a nice dinner out with the wife...I expected that figure to be monthly.

Would be nice to see some more Second Creek-like tracks in the works. I've been told they are working on one, maybe two in the state.
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post Dec 3 2006, 09:39 AM
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$1500 a year for PPIR would be on the cusp of "doable" for me, depending on access and amenities. Anytime access, an on-site garage, timing equipment? It'd be worth it, but I'm afraid the initial buy-in would be too substantial to make it viable.

But, I can't see there being enough motor sport enthusiasts in Colorado to support both tracks business plans, but you guys have been in the scene alot longer than I. What do you think?

I breifly perused the Miller site, and it looks like they had a few "open track" days, at a cost of $100. That'll work around here!!

Still, more tracks = more opportunity for track days, hopefully.
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