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> Rear suspension redesign, Optimizing a semi-trailing arm suspension
groot
post Nov 21 2006, 11:17 AM
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Finally, I'm actually constructing my rear suspension. This one's been in the works for a long time. I've had the parts, but lacked the mill/TIG time to make it happen. So, I'm starting with the 914 trailing arm instead of the 944 trailing arm (need the TIG for that one since it's alum).

Some background, the SCCA production rules state this under "Unrestricted Suspensions: Suspension Control":
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2. Suspension pickup points on the chassis or structure may be relocated and/or reinforced. If such points are relocated to the driver/passenger/trunk compartments, such points and attendant suspension components shall be covered with metal panels.
3. The manufacturer’s original system of suspension, e.g., live axle, swing axle, MacPherson strut, A-arm, etc., shall be retained. The wheelbase of the vehicle shall not be changed or relocated in a fore/aft direction.
4. Suspension bushings are unrestricted. Adjustable spherical bearings or rod ends are permitted on all suspension components.
5. Any anti-roll bar, camber compensating device, panhard rod, watts linkage, and/or other suspension stabilizer is permitted. Attachment points of such components are unrestricted.


So, I can move pickup points, I have to run a semi-trailing arm suspension, but I can add a toe link.

The basic idea is that I can get the camber gain I want by playing with the location of the pickup points of the trailing arm to the chassis, but replacing the bulky semi-trailing arm with rod ends on tubes allowing easy control of static alignment settings. Simple geometry.... But, you're stuck with a crappy toe curve.

What suspension gives an excellent toe curve???? A real trailing arm (no toe change). So, allow the rear suspension knuckle to pivot in toe, but control that toe with an additional link (attached to the chassis in such a way that it mimics a trailing arm). This was the brainstorm that hit me one day.

I gathered all the parts last winter, but spent so much time in AZ for work I didn't get to do the work before the racing season crept up on me.

Here's the work I did this morning. That rectangle stock sticking out will be where I attach my toe link. The semi-trailing arm links will mount on the top and bottom of the knuckle (bearing carrier).


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groot   Rear suspension redesign   Nov 21 2006, 11:17 AM
brant   this is going to be a great thread!   Nov 21 2006, 11:30 AM
URY914   :popcorn: :D   Nov 21 2006, 12:55 PM
Brad Roberts   We need to go over and figure out exactly how Kine...   Nov 21 2006, 01:00 PM
Brett W   Guys, Kevin and I have beat this one to death. On...   Nov 21 2006, 01:03 PM
Brad Roberts   I have been of the belief that you could "fak...   Nov 21 2006, 01:05 PM
Brad Roberts   Not sure what your bottom arrow is pointing too, b...   Nov 21 2006, 01:09 PM
Brett W   As far as the Boxster stuff goes, it uses a rear s...   Nov 21 2006, 01:50 PM
maf914   What is he doing with the shift rod where it enter...   Nov 21 2006, 02:58 PM
Brad Roberts   He is running a seriously modified Vellios shift k...   Nov 21 2006, 03:26 PM
groot   Ok, just got back from the dentist (root canal), s...   Nov 21 2006, 03:50 PM
Brad Roberts   Roger gave up on SCCA GT2 ages ago. I dont think h...   Nov 21 2006, 05:55 PM
groot   A little progress..... Maybe this will help some ...   Nov 21 2006, 07:25 PM
bam914   Kevin, How fast are you going through rear tires?...   Nov 21 2006, 07:51 PM
groot   Hey, Blake, I'm not really wearing through th...   Nov 21 2006, 08:02 PM
Brad Roberts   What tire pressures Kevin? and who's tires? I...   Nov 22 2006, 12:58 AM
Brett W  
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groot   Maybe not "burning" the rears, but defin...   Nov 22 2006, 01:02 PM
Brett W   My bad I was under the impression the GT3 used a w...   Nov 22 2006, 01:18 PM
Brad Roberts   Kevin, we used 250's for qualifying if we had...   Nov 22 2006, 03:32 PM
Thorshammer   Okay boys! I have heard some of the limited p...   Nov 23 2006, 02:18 PM
Eric_Shea   Great thread Kevin. This will be great to watch. ...   Nov 24 2006, 03:39 PM
groot   Erik, thanks, but I didn't get into the 1:39s,...   Nov 24 2006, 03:55 PM
Brett W   Have you run an FEA on this setup?   Nov 24 2006, 04:50 PM
groot   Nope... if I had, it surely would have been much l...   Nov 24 2006, 07:06 PM
GTPatrick   Food for thought on this subject folks. Don't...   Nov 24 2006, 07:21 PM
Thorshammer   GTP, The SCCA Rules have some very strong limitat...   Nov 24 2006, 11:40 PM
GTPatrick   Erik, . . . . I thought that it would be a ra...   Nov 25 2006, 07:13 PM
Brad Roberts   Ha ha.. I have a friend who thinkgs along the same...   Nov 26 2006, 01:21 AM
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