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front end project, little to no knowledge |
nycchef |
Nov 21 2006, 03:12 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
getting ready for my first winter project. want to put in turbo tie rods (seen it done) front struts (looks simple on paper). my question is i need to know if my ball joints need to be replaced. what symptons or clues should i look for?
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So.Cal.914 |
Nov 21 2006, 03:20 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
There should be no slack (wear) in the ball and socket like the one on the
turbo tierod. |
TravisNeff |
Nov 21 2006, 03:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Check the boots on your balljoints, if ripped or torn - replace. Also check for play in the joint. I would bet they are probably original on your car.
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Joe Ricard |
Nov 21 2006, 03:28 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
This reminds me I need to buy one of them fancy tools for removing the ball joint from control arm.
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TravisNeff |
Nov 21 2006, 03:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I tried making the tool, no worky - I tried a 3lb sledge and a drift, no worky. Took the A-arm to a local shop with the new balljoints and they replaced both for 1 hour shop charge - money well spent.
When I did my front end I did everything, cleaned and regreased rack, put a hose clamp on the rag joint for the rack, new tie rods, ball joints and rotors/bearings. Good piece of mind and totally changed the way the car felt & drove. |
nycchef |
Nov 21 2006, 04:44 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
did you remove the entire suspension from the car in one piece? is this a better idea given i may replace 1/2 the parts and can it be done by someone with limited 914 experience. stop laughing leo. |
Leo Imperial |
Nov 21 2006, 04:49 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
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TravisNeff |
Nov 21 2006, 04:51 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I did remove the suspension as an assembly (I was also replacing torsion bars and bushings). In your case you can do it either way.
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Leo Imperial |
Nov 21 2006, 04:59 PM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
He can pull the front end off if he pulls hard enough. It will detatch at the longs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Dr Evil |
Nov 21 2006, 05:16 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
"You'll put your eye out kid!"
You DO NOT need that shitty special tool that I bought and wasted $50 on from Pelican! Get a good Harbor Freight pipe wrench and remove the castellated nut that way. Replace the nuts too and when you do put some anti seize on the ball joint threads. If you do this you will not have to get extreme should you have to remove them in the future. You can do the tie rids just fine, but removing the tie rods from the spindle arms may prove to be a huge PITA as they like to stick. You will need a "pickle fork", $8 at your local FLAPS unless you live in Brooklyn (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Make sure to keep your alignment, and the big metal donuts go between the tierod and the steering wrack (they are not bump steer pieces). |
nycchef |
Nov 21 2006, 06:03 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
[quote name='Dr Evil' date='Nov 21 2006, 03:16 PM' post='820858']
"You'll put your eye out kid!" maybe i can borrow yours when i bring you the 912 tranny and my tranny after the holidays. might as well have you do mine. help support starving and soon to be rich doctors. |
Dr Evil |
Nov 21 2006, 09:59 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
[quote name='nycchef' date='Nov 21 2006, 07:03 PM' post='820894']
[quote name='Dr Evil' date='Nov 21 2006, 03:16 PM' post='820858'] "You'll put your eye out kid!" maybe i can borrow yours when i bring you the 912 tranny and my tranny after the holidays. might as well have you do mine. help support starving and soon to be rich doctors. [/quote] You know I got yer back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) |
highways |
Nov 22 2006, 12:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 18-June 05 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 4,296 |
Beware of the new tierods kits- there seems to be something wrong in the rubber formula for the boots and they start cracking after 3 months. Not sure which ones are the bad ones (or good ones) but lots of people have had that problem lately.
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Dr Evil |
Nov 22 2006, 08:46 AM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The bad ones are the no name cheap ones. I bought such a kit for $94 and it went to shit in 3 mo with out even driving it much. I ended up buying new rod ends and boots = net savings of $0.
Lemferodo (sp) all the way |
nycchef |
Nov 22 2006, 06:27 PM
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mechanical moron Group: Members Posts: 952 Joined: 28-November 05 From: new york city n.y. Member No.: 5,202 Region Association: None |
Lemferodo (sp) all the way
[/quote] mike where did you get em? have a good turkey day |
Dr Evil |
Nov 23 2006, 09:14 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 22,999 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
GPRparts and Pelican Parts will have them.
Gobble Gobble! |
GWN7 |
Nov 23 2006, 10:28 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Here's my tie rod replacement........I should have done the ball joints while I was in there...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...c=56323&hl= |
914werke |
Nov 24 2006, 11:04 AM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 10,066 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE and regreased rack, put a hose clamp on the rag joint for the rack Travis when you say you "re-greased" the rack what to you mean. And what is the clamp supposed to fix? |
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