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Can this sail panel be fixed?, ...and what can be done to prevent later |
boxsterfan |
Nov 11 2003, 10:02 PM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
For those who have leaking rear windows (that would be all of you), this might be a bit gruesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Can this sail panel be fixed without cutting it out and replacing with a whole new (to me) one? Drivers Sail Panel \"Head-On\" Drivers Sail Panel \"Side View\" Drivers Sail Panel \"Side View 2\" This car is planned to be acid dipped. If this can be fixed with fiberglass or other material, what can be done to help protect the inside of the sail panel? I stuck a flashlight up to it, and of course. there is surface rust all over inside the panel. Is there a "foam" that could be squirted in there? Or squirt as much POR-15 as possible in there and then fill with a water resistant foam? Or....? |
Andyrew |
Nov 11 2003, 10:31 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
From what I have heard, foam is bad, the foam may be water resistant, but the metal isnt... I would cut it open so you could clean the area better, and then por 15 the area.. Dont know..
Andrew |
type47fan |
Nov 11 2003, 11:13 PM
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It Looks Better In Person. . . Group: Members Posts: 860 Joined: 17-September 03 From: Carlsbad, CA Member No.: 1,170 Region Association: Southern California |
What sail panels? Those pics look like shots of the Titanic! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
Seriously, best of luck with the resto. . . . Wayne (type47fan) |
SirAndy |
Nov 11 2003, 11:32 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,623 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
NO foam
NO fiberglass if you go through all the hassle of acid dippin the car, do it right (dude!). get a rustfree replacement from a donor car. in fact, i think we have what you need here at the shop on the "needs to be thrown away" pile. weld it up with REAL metal !!!! Andy |
kafermeister |
Nov 12 2003, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 12 2003, 01:32 AM) ..."needs to be thrown away" pile. Andy What else ya got in the 'needs to be thrown away' pile? I'm looking for a similar piece but for the other side. |
boxsterfan |
Nov 12 2003, 09:35 AM
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914's are kewl Group: Members Posts: 1,776 Joined: 6-June 03 From: San Ramon, CA Member No.: 791 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE ..."needs to be thrown away" pile. Andy If you have some in a throw away pile, I'll take one for the drivers and passengers side. The passenger side has similar rust. How much? Let me know... Otherwise, this car is being dipped assuming it will come back out of the vat. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Seems like if I dip the car in acid and then POR15 the inside of the sail panel (since a rather large access hole will now be present) that using fiberglass to re-do or re-create the missing section would be the best. Maybe 914's cause fiberglass to rust... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
mr914 |
Nov 12 2003, 09:39 AM
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914 Hillbilly Group: Members Posts: 576 Joined: 11-January 03 From: Lincoln NE Member No.: 131 Region Association: None |
There is rust in Arizona?
I agree, find a suitable donor car and replace the back structure. Use a replacement sail panel from Resto Design. I would then Por-15 the inner portions (that are not were you would be welding. Treat the rest of it with a Zinc primer and weld it up. I definately would stay away from foam or fiberglass. |
SirAndy |
Nov 12 2003, 10:46 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,623 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(boxsterfan @ Nov 12 2003, 07:35 AM) If you have some in a throw away pile, I'll take one for the drivers and passengers side. The passenger side has similar rust. How much? Let me know... PM brad and ask him ... |
SirAndy |
Nov 12 2003, 10:47 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,623 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(kafermeister @ Nov 12 2003, 04:11 AM) What else ya got in the 'needs to be thrown away' pile? I'm looking for a similar piece but for the other side. PM brad and ask him. he wanted to take pictures for quite a while now ... Andy |
SirAndy |
Nov 14 2003, 12:32 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,623 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
boxsterfan,
i took a pic of the part on the junk pile today. let me know if that's what you need. it's rust free, the black stuff you see in the pic is just overspray. (i used it as a "table" for painting little parts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) Andy Attached image(s) |
SirAndy |
Nov 14 2003, 12:32 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,623 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
nother
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SirAndy |
Nov 14 2003, 12:32 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,623 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
backside
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Brad Roberts |
Nov 14 2003, 12:36 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
Rick,
The right side was toast (the guard rail went up the side of the car). B |
Bleyseng |
Nov 14 2003, 02:11 AM
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Aircooled Baby! Group: Members Posts: 13,034 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Hmmm, could that be Jenny's old ride?
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Brad Roberts |
Nov 14 2003, 02:27 AM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
The last few pieces.
B |
Van914 |
Nov 14 2003, 06:13 AM
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Van914 Group: Members Posts: 698 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Cincinnati, Ohio Member No.: 90 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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Restoration Designs makes the panel both left and right. $119 each Restoration-Design.com/ Van914 |
kafermeister |
Nov 14 2003, 06:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 778 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Cincinnati/Northern KY Member No.: 174 |
QUOTE(Brad Roberts @ Nov 14 2003, 02:36 AM) Rick, The right side was toast (the guard rail went up the side of the car). B Moopheus/Brad, Thanks for checking. Got anything in the lines of a front left fender? That's the only one that I don't have yet. After your report, I was wondering if that was Jenny's old car. Geoff seems to have nailed it. Van, thanks for the tip. I checked RD's website first to see if anyone was actually making that panel. I'll go that route if I haven't acquired anything by spring. |
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