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post Nov 26 2006, 08:19 PM
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And the BMW guys won......again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

We took the best times of six runs and averaged them. BWM's were just over 39 seconds and we were just over 40. My best was a 34.539. I was third overall behind Danny's Boxter at 34.292 and a Lotus 7 copy with a 3.4 liter V6 Chevy with a 34.436.
The weather was PERFECT!

Here I am in action. This pic has been reduced, the original one is 1288 KB!!! Talk about wallpaper.


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post Nov 26 2006, 08:43 PM
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post Nov 26 2006, 08:46 PM
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I need a rear wing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Maybe....



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post Nov 27 2006, 11:00 AM
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Looks like you closed the gap on the Stalker from the State Championships. Was it the same car?

Did you make any changes to your car?

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post Nov 27 2006, 11:34 AM
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I agree with the wing thing. XP allows a 5 foot wide 3 foot long wing.
If'n I had your Horse power I definately would go that route. With a splitter that makes Trekkor's look like a scooter toy.
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:38 PM
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Looks like you closed the gap on the Stalker from the State Championships. Was it the same car?

Did you make any changes to your car?

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It was the same car/driver. Yesterday's course was 1/3 the length of what the Championship course was. I was a little surprised I could get that close to his time and I didn't change a thing to the car.
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:41 PM
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I agree with the wing thing. XP allows a 5 foot wide 3 foot long wing.
If'n I had your Horse power I definately would go that route. With a splitter that makes Trekkor's look like a scooter toy.


I think I'm going to make a wing. 60" x 12" with end plates.
It'll be my winter project.
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:13 PM
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A little inspiration perhaps.


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post Nov 27 2006, 02:36 PM
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XP rules currently say I can have up to 15 sq ft of rear wing. However I am going to need more HP to overcome the drag.

Wonder is Jake will rent me an engine for Nationals.
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:36 PM
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However I am going to need more HP to overcome the drag.


I hear this a lot so have been researching car aerodynamics, the short answer is in most low drag road car body profiles positive lift is generated. The analogy is look at a car in profile & superimpose an aircraft wing profile. Easy to see in the case of a 911.

Using spoilers & wings aids in generating negative lift, which allows us to go faster through turns then consequently go faster down straights etc. Its a compound equation from then on.

Thus creating drag is not always a bad thing.

An F1 car creates so much drag that before the brakes are put on the car decelerates at >1g. BTW i know they've 900hp, unlimited budgets & 200mph on their side.

But I'm working the math on 14's based on more modest 20-50mph road speeds. Stay tuned (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Nov 27 2006, 04:04 PM
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Anyone notice the abundance of wings at Nationals this year? Heck even the class winning STS car had a freaking wing.

Yet the XP winner was a 70 911 with duck tail.
Que in the "I'm still kicking myself for not going this year".
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post Nov 27 2006, 05:08 PM
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Yes it was the year of the wing!

Home Depot here I come. If I run a big enough wing I might be able to keep my rear from lifiting in turn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

That has been fixed btw, with various methods, 2 prevent it, one says bring it I am now prepared. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif)

BTW, Good Job Paul did the Stalker have to run X class or did the BMW guys take him cause he used a BMW shift knob. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Or did he just wear the tee shirt and matching thong underwear (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)
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post Nov 27 2006, 05:25 PM
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If you do a Google search for wings you get a million ricer bolt-on suppliers. I found these on line from a company named Pennon. There website even has cross section drawings. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)




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post Nov 27 2006, 05:37 PM
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I think I'm going to make a wing. 60" x 12" with end plates.
It'll be my winter project.



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post Nov 27 2006, 05:56 PM
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post Nov 27 2006, 05:57 PM
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post Nov 27 2006, 06:24 PM
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A-mod..... Oh yea baby!
Paul those wings for ricers are WAY not big enough to have any effect at Autocross cornering speeds.
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post Nov 27 2006, 07:15 PM
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look at sheridans wing at ultimate914.com

dont you need something over the roofline? (not applicable to paul's car LOL)
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post Nov 27 2006, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(Joe Ricard @ Nov 27 2006, 04:24 PM) *

A-mod..... Oh yea baby!
Paul those wings for ricers are WAY not big enough to have any effect at Autocross cornering speeds.


I agree, the ricer wings are too small. I'm thinking some thing like this but maybe with a bi-wing.


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