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> It's all Porsche's fault, Empi Competition bites the dust
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:42 PM
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The continuing saga of "The Brown Turd" six conversion resulted in an oil bath on Saturday.

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Empi's best? split open like a ripe watermelon. Nicely oiled the tranny, right rear brake, tire & rim and me! Nothing like a warm motor oil shower. Was getting it ready for a test drive ..... it remains on the lift (where all teeners should be anyway).

Ah well ..... just more money down the shitter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pain30.gif)
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:48 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Was it a new cooler?
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:49 PM
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take it back!

empi aint known for quality....

but you did the rigth thing... make sure it is neededbefore you go with the expensive setrab/fluidyne front setup....
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:53 PM
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You have a thermostat in the circuit? Shouldn't be an overwhelming amount of oil pressure once it's warm enough to open the thermostat. The Cap'n
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:56 PM
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One way to get Slits to take a bath... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(Hi Ron) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(Headrage @ Nov 27 2006, 12:48 PM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Was it a new cooler?


Brand spankin' new .... Hey, it lasted one day....guess I can't ask for more...it did bring the oil temps down to normal (while it lasted).

Thanks Aaron ......

Hey, it saw 8 Bar cold (120 psi) for sure. I asked the counterperson if it would stand 100+ psi before I bought it .... "Sure, we've never had any problems."
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:59 PM
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looks like the cooler heat expanded and the fan/frame didn't (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Nov 27 2006, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Nov 27 2006, 12:53 PM) *

You have a thermostat in the circuit? Shouldn't be an overwhelming amount of oil pressure once it's warm enough to open the thermostat. The Cap'n


We ran a RX7 cooler on the Datsun race car for 15 years with cold start up pressure of 180 psi and never buldged or blew the cooler AND no thermostat.

No thermostat in the circuit .... 8 bar (120 psi) startup pressure.

Oh and Eric, I'm all oiled up for the rubdown (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Nov 27 2006, 03:16 PM
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IMO, it's important to use a thermostat. Prevents the engine from "overcooling", mostly on warmup. Carmakers share my opinion, mostly. The Cap'n
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post Nov 27 2006, 04:26 PM
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IMO, it's important to use a thermostat. Prevents the engine from "overcooling", mostly on warmup. Carmakers share my opinion, mostly. The Cap'n


I do not doubt that a thermo is important and I'm investigating installing one (just more money for the thermo and hoses) .... hell, the engine has one, but my contention is that the unit should be able to withstand up to 200 psi without blowing out .... that's my opinion (and I'm not quite as krusty as you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ).
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post Nov 27 2006, 06:29 PM
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I ran an Empi cooler w/ an electric fan for a couple of years in a inner fenderwell on a Corvair Spyder with out any trouble ....

Think mine was made in Canada .. maybe they move production down south ....
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post Nov 27 2006, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Luke @ Nov 27 2006, 04:29 PM) *

Think mine was made in Canada .. maybe they move production down south ....


You mean ****gasp**** manufactured in the US?
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post Nov 27 2006, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Nov 27 2006, 05:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Luke @ Nov 27 2006, 04:29 PM) *

Think mine was made in Canada .. maybe they move production down south ....


You mean ****gasp**** manufactured in the US?



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post Nov 27 2006, 08:28 PM
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Whats wrong with a RX-7 cooler? Pulled mine from a junkyard Mazda for $15 big ones.....works great(185). (actually pulled two...sold the other for $125). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Plumbed it down the drivers side...no problems. No fan needed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)


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post Nov 27 2006, 08:39 PM
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Slight hi-jack.

How do you connect the AN fittings to the RX-7 cooler? Do you have to weld them? That's a gen II RX-7 cooler correct?

Hi-jack over.

Thanks,

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post Nov 27 2006, 09:46 PM
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Your best bet is to take a hole saw and cut the factory bungs out and weld in AN fittings. If you don't want to do that Racing Beat sells an adapter for about 25$ a piece. You will need two.
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post Nov 27 2006, 09:53 PM
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What size AN hose/fittings are you using? I have an extra -10AN sitting....
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post Nov 27 2006, 10:26 PM
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Their close by.......

301 E. ORANGETHORPE AVE., ANAHEIM, CA USA, 92801 • TOLL FREE LINES 800-666-3674 • FAX 800-666-4014

Email: empi.usa@empius.com

Send them a email with the pictures......let us know what they have to say.....
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:30 PM
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Well, first I'm gonna take it back to the parts house / shop I got it from and show them. I know the owner and he's a good person. I want him to tell me what Empi will do or not do.





Then I'll send 'em images and conditions of failure.

The RX7 we used was a single pass .... Gen 1? I think I took it out of an RX4 Rotary many moons ago. Bulletproof .....

I went to the fan/cooler combo as I mounted it on the rear trunk floor, pass side and used about 1" standoffs from the floor. I hate running hoses thru the body and rocker panels .... it's work.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Hi Bruce
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post Nov 28 2006, 12:27 AM
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For a four cylinder engine 10 is OK with a relatively stock pump setup. 12 may cause to much pressure drop. For a 6 you need to run close to 16.
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